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Requested move 8 January 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

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Re-Imagining (Christian feminist conference) → Re-Imagining – No need for disambiguation. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Simplexity22 (talk) 02:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

• This one seems discussable. Re-imagining may have several meanings. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:14, 8 January 2018 (UTC) (comment copied from WP:RM/TR. Simplexity22 (talk) 02:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC))
• Oppose Per WP:ASTONISH. Re-Imagining should redirect to the same place Reimagining does, or at least be a disambiguation page._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm: Certainly Re-imagining should redirect to the same place as Reimagining, but the same thing does not apply to Re-Imagining (note the capitalization). WP:DIFFCAPS is clear on this point: "When [hatnotes] are in place, small details [and a difference in capitalization is provided as an example of such a detail] are usually sufficient to distinguish topics". WP:ASTONISH, however, is neither a naming convention nor is it our policy on article titles. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 01:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Of course WP:ASTONISH fits this nom and is a perfectly good reason to be used on the renaming of article titles. Someone looking for a popular type of film remake will be "astonished" (or WP:FLABBERGASTED) to find themselves at a page for a one-time conference from the early 1990s. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:22, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

With respect, you're not making an argument with any basis in our policies and guidelines, despite the fact that our article titles policy takes a clear position on cases such as this in WP:SMALLDETAILS. Surely you wouldn't suggest that we disregard a central consensus on the matter. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 19:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Support because I wouldn't want to see a long hatnote on the Remake page, so put a hatnote to Remake on this good faith nom per Zxcvbnm. The upper-case "I" is too slight of a difference to take the primary from a common, and becoming more popular, use of the descriptor. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:36, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: The upper-case "I" is too slight of a difference. How do you reconcile that position with the policy WP:SMALLDETAILS which is explicit in saying that a difference in capitalization is not too slight of a difference? 142.161.81.20 (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Hoping to make my position a little clearer, and my apologies for not fully explaining it. "Re-Imagining" seems to me to be a styling variant for the new and culturally popular nickname for Remake. Students and other readers who seek a historically accurate encyclopedic article about the combined actions, skills, and creative process and output of writers, director, actors, and the rest of a production crew as they remake a film, might type in "Re-Imagining". Which would, in a re-imagined world, redirect to Remake. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries, I understood what you meant already, Randy Kryn. But that which you are describing as a "slight … difference" and a "styling variant" – the difference in capitalization – is specifically listed as an example of a "small detail" as defined by WP:SMALLDETAILS. Given that we cannot override the central consensus on the matter barring exceptional circumstances (see WP:CONLEVEL), what I was asking is: how does your argument comport with WP:SMALLDETAILS? 142.161.81.20 (talk) 04:36, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

You know what, I'll change my "vote" because I wouldn't want to see a long hatnote on the Remake page to a one-time conference in the 1990s. Not because of small details, which, in this case, are not relevant for a common name to be primaried to this minor page (but it does sound like a fun conference to have attended). Please assure a proper hatnote is present on this page directing readers to Remake. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Not because of small details, which, in this case, are not relevant for a common name to be primaried to this minor page. What provision of WP:AT suggests that WP:SMALLDETAILS is not relevant here? 142.161.81.20 (talk) 19:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Quintessential application of WP:SMALLDETAILS. Anyone searching with this specific term (given the dash and caps), or linking to it, is surely intending to match the topic of this article. --В²C ☎ —Preceding undated comment added 00:32, 10 January 2018‎ (UTC)

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