Talk:Red-Greens (Sweden)

rewordings

In my last edits, I did some rewordings;

• Name: 'De röd-gröna' literally means 'the Red-Greens'. Adding 'alliance' to the name in translation is complicated, since the name 'the Alliance' is associated with the governing Alliance for Sweden. The decision not to include any word like 'alliance', 'coalition', 'bloc' in the name of the coalition is probably a conscious decision, intended to differentiate this coalition from the governing coalition.
• The exact date of founding isn't so easy to state. The coalition still doesn't have any formal shape, just a public agreement between the parties to cooperate.
• It's highly debatable whether all three parties in the coalition are left. The Greens definately reject the label 'left', and far from all commentators/pol.scis would term them as left. The word 'left' (vänstern) is often associated with the Left Party.
• In the 'see also' section, most of the links had no or little relevance to this article. The only example that is clearly analogous to this coalition is the Norwegian coalition.

--Soman (talk) 15:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Tack. I haven't time to work on this article today, but by any reasonable, neutral definition the Swedish Greens are not only "left", but far left. Admitedly in Sweden this can make them look quite centre-left, because the whole political spectrum is shifted so far in that direction (even the Moderate Party look like a social democratic party from the perspective of more liberal countries). However, I cannot be bothered arguing the toss on that one, so you Swedes can call them what you like! Lycka till. --Mais oui! (talk) 15:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

"Coalition"?

Surely the Red-Greens are not an electoral coalition; they have no plans to go forward under a joint name or have joint ballots. What they have said is that they will agree on many areas of politics before the 2010 election, and aim at forming a coalition government if they win a majority in the Riksdag in 2010. That is something much more loose than a coalition. Tomas e (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

perhaps the best wording in the intro would be "red-greens is a cooperation between three political parties in Sweden", avoiding terms like alliance, coalition or bloc? --Soman (talk) 21:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hm, I see now in the mainspace that the wording has already been changed in that direction. good, --Soman (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Based on Norway?

Is the article correct to claim that the Swedish coalition is closely based on the Norwegian one? The Norwegian "green" element consists not of a green party in the conventional sense but rather the Norwegian Centre Party, the sister-party to Sweden's Centre Party (which is part of the centre-right Alliance For Sweden)...86.176.184.100 (talk) 18:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

The green part of the Red-Green Coalition is the Socialist Left. --TIAYN (talk) 19:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually in general Socialist Left is the red, Labour is the "neutral" and Centre is the green. (Socialist Left is of course in addition green, and Labour may be red also) Look at these official Norwegian Red-Green picture where these colors are clearly remarked: [1] [2] -TheG (talk) 21:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)