Talk:Red Line (Washington Metro)

Contradiction

It says that Maryland was added for the time with the extension to Shady Grove in December 1984, but it lists several Maryland stations at earlier times, including Grovesnor in August 1984 and Silver Spring in February 1978. That doesn't make any sense.

138.88.184.122 00:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed this, moving the contradictory passage elsewhere. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Map Accuracy

Can someone please fix the red line map that is provided in this article? The fact that it is not at all at scale and in fact draws weird and inaccurate boundary lines (i.e. the District line) should be remedied.

1984

Information on various articles state that Shady Grove, Rockville, White Flint, and Grosvenor opened a month before Tenleytown-AU, Friendship Heights, Bethesda, and Medical Center and that Twinbrook opened four months after its neighboring stations were opened. I don't understand how that would work. --Jnelson09 (talk) 20:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Photos

Article is looking quite good, but was missing mention of the 2004 Woodley Park accident, so I added text from the main Washington Metro article about that and added two photos. I think some additional non-accident photos could be nice too, but no sure what. Cheers. --Aude (talk) 03:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe that if we are going to discuss accidents like this, we should also discuss the 1996 collision at Shady Grove to complete our discussion of Red Line accidents. The accident pictures, however, I think are a little overkill in this context, since we've used the same photos elsewhere, and since it's a general article about the Red Line. Otherwise, just by looking at the pictures, one would almost think that the Red Line is where all the accidents happen. I agree that some non-accident photos would be a good idea. Let me see what I have in my archives, and I'll post a few new ones up. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   Retrieval dates are year-month-day, other are month-day, year. Pick one and standardize on it. Cite #4 should be pages, with an n-dash.

   Standardized on month-day, year. Added ndash to fn 4. Racepacket (talk) 04:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   History section needs to be enlarged. What areas was the Red Line designed to serve? When did construction begin, etc.?

   The first lead paragraph explains that it links Montgomery county to downtown DC. I will expand the history and have added two system maps. Racepacket (talk) 04:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC) I added sentence re: groundbreaking for Red Line construction. Racepacket (talk) 04:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   Needs a map showing the line's route. Listing the stations doesn't tell how it fits into the system.

   The first lead paragraph explains that it links Montgomery county to downtown DC. I will expand the history and have added two system maps. There is also a map in the infobox with a show/hide switch. Racepacket (talk) 04:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

As indicated on the reviewer's talk page, I am working to address the concerns noted. Thanks for the review. Racepacket (talk) 04:23, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Good work.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:51, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 22 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Speedy close and not moved, partly because of WP:SNOW, and partly because the IP has a disruptive history of insisting that article titles be lowercased. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC) Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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• Red Line (Washington Metro) → Red line (Washington Metro)
• Blue Line (Washington Metro) → Blue line (Washington Metro)
• Silver Line (Washington Metro) → Silver line (Washington Metro)
• Orange Line (Washington Metro) → Orange line (Washington Metro)
• Green Line (Washington Metro) → Green line (Washington Metro)
• Yellow Line (Washington Metro) → Yellow line (Washington Metro)

– Lowercase the word “line” per WP:NCCAPS. The word “line is a generic descriptor 2600:1700:1960:F100:A882:B52C:C11A:62E9 (talk) 02:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not if reliable sources capitalize the "L" in running body text like any other proper noun, like Axios, WUSA/Channel 9, WTTG/Fox5, WTOP/103.5 FM, and the Washington Post do. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose with extreme prejudice. Shall we go around to virtually all the lines of all the other subway and metro systems, to apply a solution in search of a problem? Uporządnicki (talk) 10:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Zzyzx11. S5A-0043^Talk 11:51, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Zzyzx11—blindlynx 15:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. WP:NCCAPS says to lowercase unless there is a clear majority of independent reliable sources that capitalise. Per the sources below, nearly all such sources capitalise "Line" in the names of Washington Metro lines. Thryduulf (talk) 16:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Zzyzx11. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 05:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, snow on the tracks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose and speedy close GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Examination of Sources

In no particular order, here is a complete list of usage in running prose in the independent (apparently) reliable sources I found searching for "red line" "Washington Metro" (and then the same but for the green and silver lines). Excluded are sites that are not independent, clearly unreliable (e.g. forums), those that didn't use it in prose, those that only referred to multiple lines (e.g. "Green and Blue lines") and two sites that didn't capitalise the colour word (e.g. "take a red line train"). They are listed in no particular order. Thryduulf (talk) 16:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Line:
  1. Governing
  2. Washington Post
  3. Washington Business Journal (1), (2)
  4. International Railway Journal
  5. New York Times (1), (2)
  6. US Geological Survey
  7. WAMU
  8. Metro Cincinnati
  9. US House of Representatives committee hearing
  10. WTOP (1), (2)
  11. Montgomery Community Media
  12. EconWorks
  13. Transportation History
  14. Railway Pro
  15. Forbes
  16. Capital News Service
  17. Frommers
  18. The Architect's Newspaper
• line:
  1. Railway Technology
  2. Fox News
• Inconsistent:
  1. Genetics Society of America 12 instances of "Line" 1 of "line".

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The system map is grossly inaccurate

I know that transit maps are often simplified for usability, but I don't think a single station, track, or landmark location is spacially correct on this privately made one. The National Mall does not slant down at a 30-degree incline, for example. Greenbelt is not due east of Fort Totten, not by a long shot. The red line does not look like that at all.

More importantly, this is not the official map provided by WMATA, the transit agency that runs the DC Metro. My personal feelings about this atrocious map aside, pages about the DC Metro that include a map should include the official, widely used map. 71.206.30.104 (talk) 15:29, 21 August 2024 (UTC)