Talk:Red Planet (novel)

About One Church

Removed unrelated comment about one church. Many churches hold similar or related views and it is not really the place to get into it here. The church didn't even exist when the book was written. Hu 00:17, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

About "Larval Martian?"

As I recall, the theory about Willis's being a larva is expressed in the conversation between Jim's father and the doctor at the end. While the "baby Martian" is certainly the most likely possibility to them, other possibilities are offered (including a lost pet). All that is really known is that Willis is somehow important to the Martians. CFLeon 21:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Guess we go to the book. Anyone have it handy? I won't be able to look until I get home from a trip.--Wehwalt 22:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

CFLeon is correct. However, the metamorphosis of Martians from a "nymph" form to an adult form is stated as fact in an omniscient-vp section of Stranger in a Strange Land, and Heinlein wrote (in Grumbles from the Grave) that he was using the Martians from Red Planet in Stranger. 205.210.232.62 (talk) 20:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

All the same, in the book, it is stated merely as a theory. We can find an appropriate way of rephrasing it if you aren't happy.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Quite true, it is so stated in the book Red Planet, and while the Martians appear to be the same, the history of Mars and Earth in Red Planet is simply not consistent with the plot of Stranger, so what is said there cannot be safely taken as "proof" about the nature of the Martians in Red Planet. But the evidence for the connection from Grumbles is worth noting, I think. 205.210.232.62 (talk) 00:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Concerning Censorship

Accusations of "censorship" are unfounded - the publisher was spending a large amount of its money to publish the book (and they all do), and the publishers have the right to make changes. Any author who doesn't like it is free to pay for the publication out of his own pocket - which would be incredibly expensive, considering that he doesn't have any printing presses, book-binding machines, etc. Someone needs to show some respect for publishers, and all of the responsibility that they carry: if the book loses money, then their stockholders and employees lose money.74.249.79.103 (talk) 21:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Nevertheless, a large part of Grumbles From The Grave concerns Heinlein's view that he was being unfairly, or at least incorrectly, censored - and many of the examples given do lead one to agree at least in part that the editor was rather prudish to say the least. Surely the article should reflect that in some way? Please remember also that an author may have all the right in the world to publish themselves but, if they have written a book to a previously agreed contract, they would still have to produce another novel to fulfill that contract. He is therefore somewhat between a rock an a hard place - either throw away several month's work and start afresh or buckle under to what he sees as bowdlerisation.88.105.88.140 (talk) 04:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Completely irrelevant to the Wiki project. We go by what the Reliable Sources state.

The FOX-TV cartoon show

Perhaps someone could throw up a page, or a section on this page, about the Fox cartoon miniseries that was based off of this book? I would do it but the problem is I don't remember anything about it. 18:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.40.130.199 (talk • contribs).

I don't remember much about it either, but that's why I added the split tag. Redeagle688 02:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I see no point in a split, simply because there is no text that you would remove from this article. You would still want a sentence noting that there was an adaptation. Just go write an article called Red Planet (cartoon series) or something similar.--Wehwalt 02:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If someone creates a Red Planet (cartoon) article, we can link to it from here. Until then, I'll go ahead and remove that {{split}} tag. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 02:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Just as an FYI - the cartoon adaption is wildly different from Heinlein's story, and is a painful experience to watch. Truly cringeworthy.50.111.14.1 (talk) 04:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Connections

Rolling Stones refers to Martians very much like the ones in Strangers and in Red Planet, and references an "unfortunate but instructive" incidents 40 years in the past, which is very likely the events in Red Planet though no details are given. -- Nils (talk) 10:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Not quite the same. And the history of Red Planet (revolution, resulting in an independent Mars) doesn't seem the same.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:04, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

About grooves on Mars

It might help redeem the reputations of the astronomers of ages past to mention that current imagery of Mars confirms that it contains "grooves", a least one of them bigger than the Grand Canyon.

xanthian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanthian (talk • contribs) 01:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Choice of words

"Photographic memory for sounds"? Surely that ought to be "phonographic memory (for sounds)"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.193.132 (talk) 13:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Links Between Heinlein Juveniles

I've noticed that the "Preceded By" and "Followed By" entries of this page doesn't follow the other pages of the Heinlein "Juveniles." This should be corrected.

"Red Planet" says preceded by "Space Cadet" and followed by "Farmer In The Sky," but "Red Planet" is the Preceded By of the "Between Planets" page.

The Preceded By and Followed By links should be edited to match the list on the Heinlein Juveniles page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinlein_juveniles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.242.53.187 (talk) 09:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)