Talk:Red banana

This article has an inherent contradiction regarding when a red bananas are ripe. The top section says "When ripe, raw red bananas have a flesh that is cream to light pink in color" while the Description section says "Red bananas should have a deep red or maroon rind when ripe."

It's not a contradiction. "Flesh" is the inside of the banana; "rind" is the outside. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 08:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

On the List of banana cultivars page, under the heading "AAA Group", "Red Dacca" or Red Banana is listed not indented with the Cavendish Subgroup, listed instead as a separate cultivar. In addition, on the Cavendish banana page, there is no mention anywhere of the red banana being a part of this subgroup. However on this Red banana page, it mentions twice that it is part of the Cavendish group. Is this a misnomer? Unless I am mistaken, shouldn't it be in its own Red subgroup and not in the Cavendish subgroup? Or is it that the Cavendish cultivars are so popular that the AAA group is also synonymously (mistakenly) called the Cavendish group (even though there are several non Cavendish cultivars also in the AAA group)? --64.30.64.130 (talk) 04:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Diseases

The link implies that Red Bananas are vulnerable to Panama Disease. If so, that is very important information that should be in the article. For instance, I came here wondering if Red Bananas could replace the Cavendish as the Cavendish replaced Gros Michel. I'm guessing not, but it should be stated up front. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.33.17 (talk) 04:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Taxonomy and nomenclature sections are uncited (and I'm sceptical of them...)

Most (but not all) of this stuff was added by @Obsidian_Soul (now retired so cannot chime in, alas) back in 2011: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_banana&diff=prev&oldid=407309669

Lots of what's currently there rings false to me:

• There are places in the world where these get marketed under the name Cavendish banana "Cuban Red" (with the quotes)?!
• US Americans call them 'Red' bananas (with quotes) instead of simply Red bananas? (Why the scare quotes, Americans? They're genuinely red!)
• There are 10 different taxonomic names for these things but they're are all synonyms - i.e. they mean exactly the same thing rather than e.g. being different strains?

Maybe it's all true, but my instinct is that it's probably nonsense, and it's not cited. (Maybe citations elsewhere in the article back some of it up, I haven't checked.) ExplodingCabbage (talk) 15:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@143.44.193.226, I see at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_banana&oldid=1252264020 that you've reverted and added a citation of http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Musa.html for the synonym list (previously cited above), and you say in the edit summary that the scare quotes are cultivar names. I don't think this addresses most of my concerns above:

• The scare quotes I was referring to aren't the ones in the Taxonmy section, but the distinct nomenclature section, which says that in English (presumably plain English as one would e.g. see in a supermarket) these bananas are known by terms like Cavendish banana "Cuban Red" and 'Red' banana.
• The majority of both the English and taxonomic names listed are not mentioned anywhere in the cited source
• As for the three taxonomic names that do appear in the cited source - namely Musa acuminata (AAA Group) 'Red Dacca' and Musa sapientum L. var. rubra (Firm.) and Musa × paradisiaca L. ssp. sapientum (L.) - I see no evidence that they are synonyms, as this article claims. Indeed the "Species on this page" list near the start of the cited page appears to list Musa sapientum L. and Musa × paradisiaca L. as two distinct species; I am no biologist and no expert in taxonomy, but I would naively assume that surely must mean they are not synonyms?

ExplodingCabbage (talk) 16:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)