Talk:Redland, Florida

If "The Redlands" is mistaken

why Faith Church of the Redlands? --NE2 04:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Because they are mistaken. https://redlandrambles.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/redland-raised-logo-small.jpeg http://redlandelem.dadeschools.net/ 63.138.17.186 (talk) 15:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, they are not mistaken. Redland has long been alternatively called "the Redlands" by people and businesses there. Researching the archives of the Homestead Leader revealed instances dating all the way back to the 1920s. Some examples:

• 1/10/29 Bank of Homestead ad - "Banking Service for the Redlands"
• 12/5/29 Bank of Homestead ad - "The Bank of the Redlands"
• 2/6/48 Redland Feed & Supply ad - "We Are in the Redlands to Serve You"
• 1/8/50 Benson Electric Co. ad - "Oldest established electrical contractor in the Redlands"
• 1/27/50 ad Eleanor Froscher Realtor ad - "A Pioneer of the Redlands"

It's highly unlikely local businesses would refer "mistakenly" to the area in which they do business as "the Redlands." The fact that a business in the heart of Redland known as "Redland Feed & Supply" would identify itself as being in "the Redlands" is conclusive proof that this is not an incorrect usage employed only by those outside of the community. The article's reference to the incorrectness of this usage, and its use only by outsiders, has been removed. Jhw57 (talk) 20:54, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

In the first article you cite, the first page, right most column, titled: RESUMPTION OF POOL PROJECT TO GET EARLY ATTENTION, there are repeated references to the Redland District. There has been confusion for many decades among some, but remember, this is an area with many recent arrivals. Simply because some people or entities periodically refer to the Redland in the plural, does not carry much weight. We should refer to the name it was incorporated by and the preponderance of references.

In the third citation, again on the front page, right most column, headline: DADE AG GROUP TO MEET TO MEET MONDAY AT REDLAND CAMP. Directly below it, "A special....to present the Redland District"

Next page, reference to Redland Credit Bureau.

Page 6, add for J&S Clothiers "Save 33 1/3% on your ticket to the Redland Fruit and Vegetable Fair and vote for your favorite candidate for Miss Redland."

Directly below that: "Try Reliable 'Redland Brand Fertilizers"

These are only two of the clipping cited below I have looked at.

The evidence seems overwhelming that Redland is correct as most long term residents and the official records indicate. BarelyKnown (talk) 18:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

To quantify: there are 224 references to Redlands in the archive and 709 references to Redland. 2603:3020:26D7:A180:79BE:F435:A785:7604 (talk) 20:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

While there may be more "references" to "Redland," the cited sources clearly show that the two other alternative names have been used for over 100 years, and are still used, whether by "recent arrivals" or not. This isn't a counting game with the most references winning out to the exclusion of the others. And Redland has never been "incorporated" anyway, so the fact you say that "[w]e should refer to the name it was incorporated by" makes no sense, let alone carries any weight. Jhw57 (talk) 14:36, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Multiple Issues reasoning

To explain the issues I've identified in the article:

• The article relies heavily upon the About the Redland page, which strongly appears to be a self-published website. Are there any other sources that could be used, e.g. newspapers? What about the writings of Audubon and Fairchild that show their amazement, for example?
• How was the population figure of 10,138 derived from the 2010 US Census, when the Census Bureau hasn't listed Redland as a CDP and defined any borders? What was the specific source used? Is the process of obtaining this figure a form of original research? Wikipedia articles themselves can not be used as a source - this is what the reference is currently suggesting.
• Many of the cited links are broken. I cannot get anything out of the American FactFinder, for example - it sends me to Collier County, Florida whenever I put "Redland, Florida" into its search engine. The Historical Markers website is also broken.
• Parts of the article sound like a travel guide, especially from the tone used.
• The "climate" section sounds more like an "agriculture" section; there needs to be verifiable sources of what grows there, too.

-DyluckTRocket (talk) 22:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)