Talk:Redundancy theory of truth

Ordinary Language Philosophy

Two questions. First, in ordinary language philosphy are "Snow is white" and "Snow is white is true" the same? I think that in linguistic pragmatics, which I recognize is not the subject of this article, the two statements are different. The first simply states a fact, the second implies re-assertion or assertion in the face of a perceived doubter. They also differ in the temporal focus of a likely listenter. The first states an obvious fact, and the listener focuses on what comes next after this statement; she expects this to be a building block in a developing conversation. The second states an obvious fact, but the listener focuses on what must have happened earlier in the conversation to lead the speaker to make an emphatic (re-)statement of an obvious fact; he expects that for some reason, this apparently obvious, indubitable fact has become doubted.

Second, would it make sense to make some reference to the way ordinary language philosophy differs (might differ?) from other branches on this issue of disquotationality/redundancy? I certainly am not up to the task, but my thoughts on this might encourage someone who's qualified to do so. Interlingua 15:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

What is a "redundant theorist"?

Opening paragraph uses this without explanation. 212.159.103.66 21:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand this.

√2 is a ratio of two integers. <refer to proof of your choice which demonstrates that proposition leads to contradiction> So, what does it mean to claim that is exactly equivalent to my asserting that " '√2 is a ratio of two integers.' is True." I have asserted the former, but NEVER have asserted the latter (it is, in fact, False, as you doubtless apprehend). Snow is white? Not if the light isn't white (or near white). Ice crystals (of sufficient purity) are colorless. The surfaces between snowflakes scatter light, so snow reflects the color of the ambient light, which is generally perceived as white. But I digress. Asserting a false preposition as part of a conditional argument needs to be addressed. Generally, expressing "P is true" means not only that I believe P is true, but that I believe I can prove P is true or that I have already demonstrated to my own satisfaction that I am correct in believing P is true. Given that Homo Sapiens Sapiens should be characterized as having the fundamental characteristic (observe any child (or adult)) of being liars much of the time, not discussing how this subject relates to either conditionally true statements or outright lies is a gross omission. But perhaps the latter is outside the scope of this subject...173.189.79.42 (talk) 22:07, 17 May 2015 (UTC)