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This article presents historically accurate material that has been published in refereed journals. It minimizes discussion of research results in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. The list of reference has been included to help guide the interested reader. The Wikipedia article provides a succinct historical account of the development of relativistic dynamics. The material presented in this article, as well as other scientific articles, should be read with a degree of scepticism.

The International Association for Relativistic Dynamics (IARD) is an open society that encourages qualified scientists to present their ideas, even though some people may view the ideas as fringe science. It is hoped that some of these ideas, when subjected to public scrutiny at IARD conferences and in published proceedings, will be refined and eventually contribute to our accumulation of knowledge. Other ideas may simply disappear. The public scrutiny of ideas and supporting data are an essential part of the scientific method. IARD proceedings have been published in the refereed jounal called the Foundations of Physics.

Texas06 17:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:SOAPBOX 107.77.193.11 (talk) 16:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)Collin237

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24.8.212.6 (talk · contribs) aka the hsd1.co.comcast.net anon; geoloc. near Lakewood, CO

Caution advised (Hillman's ad hominem)

I don't have time to sort through this myself, but I noticed that this article links to an organization previously unknown to me, International Association for Relativistic Dynamics, whose standing committee includes at least two persons whose research appears to constitute fringe science:

• Ronald L. Mallett, who is allegedly trying to construct a human portable time machine,
• Ruggero M. Santilli, creator of Hadronic mechanics (apparently a cranky theory), founder of the cranky journal Hadronic Journal, and founder INSTITUTE FOR BASIC RESEARCH, who apparently says about himself at this site:
  • Santilli is the sole scientist in history who was capable of discovering a series of structural generalizations of pre-existing mathematics based on generalized units and products, and then apply them to a series of structural generalizations of physics, superconductivity, chemistry, biology, astrophysics and cosmology.

This raises the concern that this article may represent cranky ideas dressed up as sound science.---CH 02:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

User Hillman is posting ridiculous ad-hominem attacks. Everyone can see that the references on relativistic dynamics are published in top scientific journals as Found. Phys., J. Math. Phys., Rel. Grav. Cosmol., Class. Quant. Grav., and so on.

Moreover, the article is discussing a relativistic theory first developed by Stuckelberg, Horwitz and Piron, and usually named the Stuckelberg, Horwitz, and Piron theory or Stuckelberg theory for short. Ernst Stueckelberg is a well-respected physicist. Horwitz and Piron are as well. E.g. Horwitz is an awarded outstanding referee for the Physical Review Journal (http://publish.aps.org/OutstandingReferees). JuanR (talk) 16:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Students beware

I had been half-heartedly monitoring this for bad edits, without attempting to correct what I view as vios of WP:NPOV-WP:RS, but I am leaving the WP and am now abandoning this article to its fate.

I think the previous section should make clear why I think that at least some future versions are likely to provide slanted information, misinformation, or disinformation.

Good luck to all students in your search for information, regardless!---CH 03:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Hillman for abandoning Wikipedia JuanR (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Ice pop (talk · contribs) has modified talk page posts

The above user has modified posts by Hillman (talk · contribs) on this page. I have since restored his original posts. Furthermore, Ice pop has removed the cleanup tag on the article, which I have also restored. --Masud 04:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation Needed

Whether this is crank science or not, there's at least a need for a disambiguation page.

When most people look up this entry, they'll be looking for the counterpart to relativistic kinematics, namely a discussion of how things like forces are handled in special and general relativity, not this esoterica.

Rwilsker (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• I second this proposal. In fact, I can make one pretty quickly. Ema--or (talk) 13:10, 14 February 2016 (UTC) PS It also seems that Ice pop also removed the cleanup tag from this article.

Done. Not exactly a disam, but at least a clarification. A compromise, if anything. Ema--or (talk) 14:28, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Suggested article title change

I suggest the article be changed to 'Stueckelberg-Horwitz-Piron relativistic dynamics' or something similar with the names of the three physicists mostly associated with this theory (also called world-time theory, historical-time theory, Fock– Stueckelberg theory and covariant relativistic mechanics).

L0rents (talk) 23:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)