Talk:Religion in Berlin

Latest comment: 5 years ago by IamNotU in topic Misrepresentation of number of "atheists"

History section

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A history section would really make this into a real article, or at least a section on each religious culture as it manifests itself in the city, like in the article for Religion in London.--Aichik (talk) 21:37, 16 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Note about using British English

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There was a copyediting note that said that because the topic is European, "Therefore British English is needed." And while I disagree that British English needs to be used for that reason, I wanted to make note of the argument here, while advancing the other copyediting issues in the article.--Aichik (talk) 22:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Misrepresentation of number of "atheists"

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The article currently states, for example in the "Irreligion" section: "As of April 2009, 64% percent of Berlin residents have no registered religious affiliation. For this reason, Berlin is often called the "atheist capital of Europe", sourced to this Guardian article. However, the keyword is registered - that 64% represents the number of people who are not registered with the government as members of churches that collect church tax through the government. In other words, the 64% includes everyone who identifies as Christian but who doesn't attend church and doesn't pay church tax (which may well be a higher number than those who do), as well as Muslims, Jews, and anyone who considers themselves religious but isn't required to remit church tax. It does not represent "atheists" or "irreligious" people! Furthermore, the statement that Berlin is often called the "atheist capital of Europe" is dubious, as according to a Google search there is no evidence of this phrase ever being used prior to the publication of this Guardian article. There are numerous uses of it since then, but they all trace back to that article - it seems to me to be a case of the journalist inventing rather than reporting facts. This same misrepresentation is present in a number of other places in the article, and in the main Berlin article. --IamNotU (talk) 12:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)Reply