Talk:Remington XP-100

Picture

I put a picture of the stock for now. I'll add a full picture when the gun is back from the gunsmith and ready to go. Arthurrh 02:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I was gonna say that pic is pretty odd. The gun is still at the shop after 3 months? BillyTFried (talk) 21:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Recoil Compared with other Pistols & Rifles

I have noticed from reading around the web that there is a big discrepancy regarding the recoil of this weapon. In certain pages relating to the JFK assasination such as http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/files8.txt, it is described as having a "Kick like a MULE", however other sources mock these assertions as "amateur hour". The source of the mule statement is purportedly an ex military man, however those who have been critical have been self-styled gun dealers. If anyone could help clear this up with some definitive evidence it would help determine the accuracy of James Files JFK assasination story.

Recoil is a function of firearm weight, bullet weight, bullet velocity, and charge (powder) weight. You can't discuss the recoil of a firearm that is chambered in multiple cartridges in the abstract, not to mention that different barrel and stock configurations on the XP-100 would have different weight. The article you reference doesn't mention the XP-100 at all, it only mentions the .221 Fireball cartridge. As a matter of course, the fireball is a pretty darn tiny cartridge compared to other rifle cartridges, making it much quieter and giving it less recoil than even the .223 Remington. There are lots of other factual problems in the article you reference. The statement above DOES sound like amateur hour. Arthur 20:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurrh (talk • contribs)

I have personally shot an XP-100 in the original configuration--10.5" vent rib barrel, nylon center-grip stock, .221 Fireball chambering. It also had a 2x20 pistol scope, which is quite compact, and added probably under 12 ounces of weight with mounts, less than a typical rifle scope. The recoil, though sharp, was actually very mild; it had some muzzle flip, and it certainly lived up to the name "Fireball", with a bright muzzle blast about a foot in diameter that was clearly visible in full sunlight. It kicked less than a standard model 1911 .45 ACP. The "quietness" of the .221 is strictly when compared to full powered rifle cartridges; it is much louder than most other handguns, as the residual pressure at the muzzle is probably higher than the max pressure of a typical handgun cartridge, and the small bore means that it is going to have a higher proportion of high frequencies in the report, a "crack" rather than a "Boom". Out of a rifle length barrel, it's going to be a lot quieter due to the lower muzzle pressure.

As for the JFK assassination theory, yes, a 6.5 mm pistol is entirely possible, though it would take a lot of tinkering and wouldn't be all that much more concealable than a folding stock rifle, and a lot harder to shoot accurately. No less far-fetched is a crypto-rifle, such as the one used in The Day of the Jackal (both the book, and the 1973 film). Use a carbine length barrel with a small suppressor to contain the muzzle blast, and it would be very hard to locate the source of the shot from the sound, since the dominant sound would then be the sonic boom of the supersonic bullet. The joy of a good conspiracy theory is that if it's paranoid enough, it can never be disproven... scot 14:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed Tacked on Nonsense

Somebody just slapped into 'Model History' an unsourced blurb about this James Files crackpot. I removed it as irrelevant nonsense.John Simpson54 (talk) 01:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)