Talk:Remo Fernandes/Archive 1

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What are the influences behind remo fernandes?

More interestng things to add to his article. [1] --hydkat 20:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

one more [2] --hydkat 21:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

one more link.[3] --hydkat 21:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

References

One reference, that showing that Remo instigated the "festival" (actually, "invented" is more like it) and sustains it, was already given (http://www.goacom.com/goanow/2002/jan/festivals.html). As for the second, the wave of conversions away to Fundamentalist Protestantism, providing a reference will be a bit tricky, but I'll work on it. As stated, however, Remo's activities was part of the provocation, not the whole. And, as a matter of fact, the "Catholic" church strongly pursues the same policy since Vatican II, as is proven by the "Catholic" priest (Fr. Moreno de Sousa, a Jesuit) gushing about the Siolim Zagor in this page, also provided in external links, although his text is in the Konkani language: http://www.goa-world.com/goa/zagor/index.htm. Is this sufficient? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.246.204.115 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 3 September 2006.

• • The above is bizarre... It is an extreme religious perspective of what basically is a Rock star's involvement in propping up a syncretic festival that brings together people of two faiths. Let's not create controversy where none exist. That's my view. --fredericknoronha 21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I read the article, it does not seem to come even close to being a controversy. Albeit I must say it is an interesting event... and the author also states that it is atleast a century old tradition. I am shifting it out of the controversy section. And I really doubt a musician can be responsible for mass conversion!? --hydkat 20:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the entire section. After some consideration and reading a few articles on the festival, I find it odd that Siolim Zagor is considered a controversy where both communities agree that it builds communal harmony. Also the claim that his music (rock music in general) is a form of Animism and that he is in violation the First Commandment is your Point of View (and I feel amounts to a personal attack). Your point about his veiws on God being a controversy needs to be proved. Anyway, thanks for the link! I've added his contribution to the event in another section --hydkat 19:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

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Remo Fernandes... and his Goa connections

While Remo Fernandes may now be seen as an Indian pop star, much of his career has been linked to Goa. In this context, it is not irrelevant to add details about the bands he played with in his younger days, and the fact that he invited the entire Goa (through newspaper adverts too) when he had a public celebration of his 50th birthday, in the form of a public concern. ----fredericknoronha 21:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello... I did add details about his early bands... I just felt that there is not enough reference material on the band Indiana so I don't know how important it is. I did create a entry on Ihe Savages and hoping a seperate page would be created about them. Same goes for Microwave Papdums. If there is any extra details about these 2 bands plese add them to their respective location. --hydkat

• BELOW ARE SOME DELETED DETAILS: For his 50th birthday, Goa's prominent pop artiste had a birthday bash with a difference. Remo's 50th birthday was on May 8, 2003. When he turned 50, he performing before thousands -- estimates varied between 7,000 to 25,000 --- of + In 2003, on his 50th birthday, Remo held a reunion concert with many of his former band members from Beat 4 and The Savages

note- I only left out the part that about audience numbers (most of his concerts have such numbers or larger crowds) --hydkat

- fans at the jam-packed Panjim Gymkhana Grounds, where he was teaming up with bands and singers with whom he had grown up with through the years.

note- we could add the Panjim Gymkhana Grounds, The 'grown up with them' part is already implicit in the article and is only repetition. --hydkat

- - Local newspaper ''Goa Messenger'' reported: "Remo said he didn't feel a day over twenty. 'I know some musicians who hide their age. So why am I so happy that I have turned 50? I don't know, I just feel great that I am 50. I still feel young and I don't even dye my hair! I guess it's just that I enjoy doing my music so much,' said Goa's golden boy?. Ooops, his not a boy anymore!"

note- I did'nt think this part was encyclopedia worthy, but I guess it could be added --hydkat 07:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

- - Remo is known to sing in Portuguese, the Konkani language and other tongues in various styles.

note- already in article (lead para) --hydkat

- - ==Remo and his bands== - - There is no mention of Remo's drug use, recovery, and practice of Yoga. Also no mention of his band from the late 1970s to early 1980s, Street Band. Remo played flute and guitar accompanied by Indian percussionists. 70.95.189.237 (talk) 04:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC) - Remo has dominated the pop Western music scene in his home state of Goa for almost two decades now. He began in his school days band Beat 4, and when in architecture college was part of The Savages. Then he went on to bands named - Indiana and his current band is called Microwave Papadums.

note - already in article (except the indiana part) --hydkat

- - In a 2003 reunion, at Remo's birthday, those taking part were surviving members of the Beat 4 -- Nandinho Lobato Faria and Caetano de Abreu, apart from Remo. Drummer Tony Godinho, who had flown in from Oman, could not join the band since he was recuperating from a mild heart stroke, suffered a couple of days earlier at a dinner following a rehearsal.

note - isn't the statement about this concert taking place simply enough? --hydkat 07:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

- - 2003 also saw a reunion of The Savages -- Bashir Sheik (drums), Prabhakar Mundkur (keyboard), Ralph Pais (bass guitar), and Remo (lead guitar).

note- as per above --hydkat

- - In an accident in Kanpur in 2001, Remo lost a number of musicians who played for his Microwave Papadums -- Dharma, Selwyn and Victor.

note- its in the article --hydkat

- - Indiana was a band that Remo had formed with the versatile percussionist Bondo, tabla player Lala and Abel on the bass guitar.

note- as per above points raised --hydkat

- - Remo is known for songs he made familiar in Goa in the 1980s -- A Pig's Eye View, Everybody Wants To (his AIDS awareness song), The Paper Caper and Graham Bell. He is known for his performance of Hindi songs in the Bollywood mainstream cinema -- such as O Meri Munni and Hamma.

note- the albums are noted, and some of the songs. if you have any more details about the songs

please put them in. Also could you input any info on his newer albums?? --hydkat 07:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

• • • Thanks for the edits. Quite satisfied. --59.95.7.7 19:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Plan to remove/remake the controversy section

If I don't find any references to a controversy surrounding remo fernandes... I plan to remove that section. --hydkat 12:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Remember that the word "meri munni" in Estonian language means "sea to dick", "sea to male sex organ". Estonia is a little country/state in North Europa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.50.52.153 (talk) 11:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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Rendering of name into Konkani

The Devanagari rendering of the name doesn't sound very accurate to me. fredericknoronha (talk) 18:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Assesement: 11:11, 1 March 2008 Kensplanet. Rated B-class and Low importance. ==Lead In== Remo Fernandes (born 8 May 1953)is a popular pop/rock/Indian fusion artist and playback singer from the state of Goa, India. pop/rock/Indian fusion artist and playback singer---Please provide a web reference fo this. Also seperate (born 8 May 1953) and is, He now writes and sings his songs in five different languages, English, Hindi, French, Portuguese, and Konkani. should be He now writes and sings his songs in five different languages, English, Hindi, French, Portuguese and Konkani. Lead In is almost nearly perfect for a 14KB Page. == Early years and musical influences== Well done. This section looks perfect. == Pre-fame years== Ok. Fine section == Career== You must split this into sections. For example, you must have an individual section named His first hit album "Pack That Smack" and write as much as details U can. Similarly, for other famous albums. == Other collaborations and work== Quite good although not perfect. You can get more on the Net. == Personal life== You should expand this. == Song Samples== You should put the .ogg file in the carrier section. This section is unnecessary. Where is the Awards section?????? Refer Madonna (entertainer) article since it is a A-class singer article. I also recommend a Peer review on this article. Message me if you have doubts or not satisfied.

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the Edit i did on Remo Fernandes i noticed his birth is recorded twice so i edited. and he is a Goan what was wrong there or ..... Decan.reporter (talk) 16:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Citizenship description

Portuguese nationality law means that Remo was a Portuguese citizen from his birth in May 1953 (Goa was not part of India till 19 December 1961), and his current reversion to Portuguese citizenship wasn't by naturalization process. You can't describe him as an Indian singer because India doesn't allow dual nationality, and also WP: ETHNICITY. The previous description before the vandalism by User:Gotitbro followed the same system as for Tina Turner. 42.107.84.59 (talk) 16:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Unless you are looking for a ban with your IP-hopping personal attacks labelling any evert of your contentious edits as vandalism, I'd recommend you stop it. Your restrictive definition of Indian by citing a single-use case of a pop-singer isn't helpful either (we also have J. B. S. Haldane and Albert Einstein among numerous other examples), each case is decided on its own merits. That the person here has carried Portuguese nationality since birth is your WP:SYNTH analysis which is not going to fly. Even the sources cited mark out-his earliest acquirement-case at 1993 clearly forgoing your claims here. The complete abjurement of Indian from the lead is clearly contentious as the article was long stable with that before your numerous IPs thought the better. Gotitbro (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

This is not to say a better use-case can't be reached here, such as "Indo-Portuguese", "India[n]-born Portuguese", "India[n]-born naturalised Portuguese", but "Goa-born", "Goan" etc.is not going to pass when listing nationality as such. @Ab207: please take a look and give a second opinion here-in. Gotitbro (talk) 16:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Gotitbro. Looking at the sources, it looks like Fernandes acquired Portuguese citizenship at some point, so description as naturalised Portuguese seems valid. To avoid the confusion over being Indian or Indian-born, I would suggest writing "is a singer and musician from India with naturalized Portuguese citizenship." -- Ab207 (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ab207: That appears fine to me, as an uninvolved editor it would be great if you can apply this. Gotitbro (talk) 17:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Gotitbro, done. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)