Talk:Repoblación
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Unbalanced tag reverted
editHi, this article has a number of issues for any reader who wants to get a balanced and unbiased information. For a start, it mentions "retaken" by the "Christians". "Retaken" means that it was before in the hands of a king or a country or a people, which was not, since this was never in the hands of Alfonso or even Asturias. To claim that there ever was some kind of pan-Christian awareness or solidarity is gratuitous, let alone in the northwest of Iberia, a cul de sac in the previous Visigothic realm, inhabited by peoples other than Hispano-Romans or Visigoths, and ambiguously depicted by Arab sources as Christians sometimes and Wizards (or Pagans) other times.
Secondly, no mention is made to the key event, the Berber Revolt. Thirdly, to claim Christians and Moors is as vague and tantamount to claiming the Whites and the Darks, or the Our Fellows and the Barbarians, which reveals no knowledge of the real situation and relying to make up for that deficiency on biased or legendary sources. However, inline citations could be added to support that claim, and is not. Thanks for not changing the tag until this issue is solved. Iñaki LL (talk) 10:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The term repoblación does not mean "retaken", it means "repopulating" and refers to the re-settlement of previously settled and then depopulated land. It has nothing to do with whether the land was previously Asturian. Srnec (talk) 19:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks I know what "repoblación" means. In the account of the events, the article clearly states that "Christians" had retaken Galicia, etc. That's a catch-all vague statement, based on the hardly tenable premise that the so-called "Christians" were acting as a block and that the Christians are those inhabiting in northern Iberia. That Christians were retaking Galicia at all is dubious to say the least, it was the commander in Asturias at that time (Alfonso I, king or not) looking to expand his territory. Iñaki LL (talk) 13:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- I misread your original post. Srnec (talk) 23:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- Even so, "retaken" is correct, if one means by Christian Iberians as an all-encompassing group. Visigothic (and Roman) Spain was Christian, ruled by Christians. This is a fact, although what is not clear is the relation of the early kings of Asturias to the Visigoths. The traditional history is that they were Visigoths and descendants of Visigoths who had fled from elsewhere upon the Muslim invasion, and even related to previous Visigothic rulers. It is now often, but not always, suggested that Pelagius was a "native" chieftain in Asturias. AW Regueiro (talk) 16:10, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks I know what "repoblación" means. In the account of the events, the article clearly states that "Christians" had retaken Galicia, etc. That's a catch-all vague statement, based on the hardly tenable premise that the so-called "Christians" were acting as a block and that the Christians are those inhabiting in northern Iberia. That Christians were retaking Galicia at all is dubious to say the least, it was the commander in Asturias at that time (Alfonso I, king or not) looking to expand his territory. Iñaki LL (talk) 13:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Repopulation of the Duero or just Repopulation
editThe original subject of this page was the Repopulation of the Duero basin, which was just one of several repopulations in the Medieval Iberian Peninsula. As it stands now, it's not clear which is the page subject, if it is about all the repopulations it should be heavily rewritten. Jotamar (talk) 22:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)