Talk:Reptile (Mortal Kombat)/GA1

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  • A few of the items in the infobox need spaces, like in "Pesina(MK, ", "Turk(UMK3", etc.
  • Midway leads to a disambiguation page
  • "that are all but extinct in" – so they are extinct? can't this be written as "that are extinct"?
  • "he serves recurring series villain Shao Kahn under the pretense of the revival of his race in return for his loyalty." – "he loyally serves recurring series villain Shao Kahn under the pretense of the revival of his race."
  • "Included in the first game as a last-minute idealate in the development process by Tobias and Boon"
  • "choosing hisReptile's green color"
  • "the charactercharacter's concept was completed"
  • "using extreme measures that would result in players fighting him" – Reptile's inclusion was used to market the game by using extreme measures? What?
  • "until the second revision" – Second revision? Is this the second release of the original MK game? Not sure what this means.
  • Link Mortal Kombat 4 that appears in the lead and Mortal Kombat 3 later in the first section
  • "addingwith gold"
  • "two games"
  • "appearance through his body" – This isn't clear to someone unfamiliar with the game. I'm assuming someone else is manipulating their body?
  • "from 4, his" – wow, perhaps a bit too concise. How about making it "MK4"? Although personally, I'd prefer seeing it spelled out.
  • "hands and" – missing a serial comma, if that's how other sentences are going to be in this article.
  • "In addition" – "In addition," (comma)
  • "hands and" – "hands, and"
  • "Deception serving" – "Deception serving"
  • "players had to winmust win" – because this is still the case (if you play the game now, the rules haven't changed since it first came out)
  • "To fight Reptile in Mortal Kombat, players had to win two consecutive rounds while fighting on the Pit stage without blocking or taking damage and ending the second round with a Fatality. In addition, a random silhouette would have to float across the moon in the background before the start of the match, which occurred after every eighth stage cycle.[5] Reptile could then be fought at the bottom of the Pit, awarding the player ten million points if they defeated him. Reptile also appeared randomly prior to matches with clues on how to find him, such as "Look to la luna."[6]" – This paragraph is really confusing for someone new to the series. I've certainly played a few MK games (well, mostly Mortal Kombat 3), but I don't consider this paragraph clear. Perhaps just remove the terms that aren't absolutely necessary for the reader to understand what's going on.
  • Overall, I don't think the tenses are used correctly. When talking about a video game, it should be present tense as the game still exists, just like when referring to the events in a book. So, "Returning in Mortal Kombat II as a playable character, he was stated to be a member of a reptilian race called Raptors," should be "In Mortal Kombat II, Reptile is a playable character, and is a member of a reptilian race called Raptors,"
  • "Reptile serveds Kahn"

Alright, that's all for now, from the lead and "Conception and history", and a bit from the beginning of "In video games". Gary King (talk) 15:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Alrighty, working on them, got the ones down to the conception second hammered through thus far.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Alright, I *think* I've nailed everything here thus far, definitely restructured that paragraph to hopefully make more sense.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • "would have tomust float "
  • "which occurreds after"
  • "In addition, a random silhouette would have to float across the moon in the stage before the start of the match, which occurred after every eighth cycle of the game's stages." – Although not really that confusing, especially to a gamer like myself, this is still not that... clear. It can probably be replaced with something more clear but less specific, like "A certain event must occur" (perhaps not that vague, but along those lines)
  • "wereare met"
  • "the player would then fights Reptile"
  • "Pit, awarding the player ten million points if they won." – "Pit. The player receives ten million points if they win."
  • "Returning in Mortal Kombat II as a playable character, Reptile is stated to be a member of a reptilian race called Raptors," – "In Mortal Kombat II, Reptile returns as a playable character and a member of a reptilian race called Raptors,"
  • "he wasis defeated and exiled"
  • "Reptile leftleaves to warn"
  • "who offeredoffers knowledge"
  • Tense problems still.

Gary King (talk) 16:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oy vey, fixed up the issues you pointed out, tried simplifying that sentence a little without negating the information too much. Sorry this thing's turning out to probably be a headache Gary.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • "Reptile pledged his loyalties to her," – "Reptile pledges her his loyalty,"
  • "Eventually realizing she had merely used him" – "Eventually realizing that she was merely using him"
  • "sets out"
  • "He instead foundfinds Onaga's dragon egg instead,"
  • "transformedtransforms Reptile"

And so on. Gary King (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Got those and a few others. Would the NBA Jam mention have to be included as well in the present tense, as the character was cut from later versions at the request of the NBA.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Not sure. I reworded it to not have a tense problem. Gary King (talk) 17:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • "and endsending" for parallelism
  • "development, Producerproducer Shaun"
  • "noted Reptile's inclusion was due to the character being one of his favorites in the series." – "noted that Reptile was included in the game because the character was one of Himmerick's favorite in the series."
  • "his attack set was" – not sure if this is specifically MK lingo; otherwise, perhaps just "his attacks were"
  • "His Forceball createdcreates an energy ball from his hands, while his Acid Spit producedproduces a higher, faster projectile."
  • "series modifiedmodify these" – if the games exist, they still modify them, so present tense
  • "removedremove moves"
  • "called a "fatalityFatality""
  • "consistedconsist of"
  • "expandedexpand upon"
  • "Reptile's finishers wereas some"
  • "the seriesas a whole"

Okay, done "In video games". Gary King (talk) 17:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Nailed all these too.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • "camouflaging itselfhimself "
  • "Reptile wasis portrayed in"
  • "also appearedappears"

Some more tenses need to be fixed. Gary King (talk) 18:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Got these and a few others in that block too.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:07, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • "Reptile also appears in the live action television series Mortal Kombat: Conquest, portrayed by Jon Valera and modeled after his human appearance in the film." – "Reptile appears in the live action television series Mortal Kombat: Conquest in his human form, and is portrayed by Jon Valera." – or something like that, perhaps also mention that it was from the film
  • "only to be later killed" – "only to be killed later"
  • "series's"
  • "also appearedappears in comics"
  • "for Mortal Kombat II and 4, based" – "for Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat 4, based"
  • "in the same hissing tone as the games" – The games make hissing tones? Or Reptile, in the game?
  • "A later action figure" – Hm, what makes it late?
  • "GameSpot described Reptile as giving the series" – "GameSpot said that Reptile gives the series"
  • "as one of the ten greatest events in video games, ranking it fourth on their list." – "as the fourth greatest event in video games."
  • "him number eleven" – "him eleventh"

Gary King (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ten up and ten down.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Alright, a few MOS issues now:

  • "UGO.com ranked him eleventh in their "Top 11 Mortal Kombat Characters" article," – "UGO.com ranked him eleventh in their list of Top 11 Mortal Kombat Characters,"
  • Please check the usage of punctuation in quotation marks. Per WP:PUNC, "an "arcade legend," and" should be "an "arcade legend", and".
  • "your side."" should be "your side".". Etc.

Gary King (talk) 19:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Alrighty, nailed them too. Looks like I have some fixes to do in other articles I've worked on as well (I'm better at finding sources). With all the fixes here, is there anything you'd think would impede it at a FAC at this point? All the sources can be verified as reliable and are using the cite tags so that much is out of the way.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
There are a lot of short paragraphs, so consider merging them. The images need way better fair use rationales. I'll pass the article now. Good luck at FAC! Gary King (talk) 19:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply