Talk:Republic of Cabinda
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NPOV
editThis article seems to have been written almost entirely from the standpoint that Angola is (essentially) Evil. Statements such as "the so called "Angolan" province of Zaire (which is in fact Mbanza Kongo, the Kingdom of the Mukongo people this is the heart of the Kongo Nation" is an example of this problem. Also the term "occupied state" presents the image that compares this situation to other occupied territories in the world(i.e. Palestine). This seems to be unnecessary. Additionally grammatically there are problems with spelling that need to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.198.237 (talk) 15:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've fixed some of these. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
2020
editPalestine -- the Arab parts of the Palestinian Mandate -- are undetermined territories. Britain offered an Arab state and a Jewish state to the parts of the Mandate...and the Israelis said yes. The Arabs said no. The matter is still undetermined to this day. In the same way, if Cabinda was a separate Portuguese colony -- and was in fact invaded by Angolan forces during the Angolan independence campaign...then the situation in Cabinda is exactly the same. It did not get a chance at independence and is undetermined -- though here it is possible that many nation-states see it as part of Angola. Similarly -- see the status of Spanish Sahara vs. Morocco/Mauritania. Facts on the ground support Angola -- but the history section supports Cabinda as a separate entity. What is the UN position on the matter? Chesspride 216.144.161.51 (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- The Cabindans have received much less international support than either the Palestinians or Sahrawis, so Cabinda is not a very diplomatically-active issue. AnonMoos (talk) 00:30, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Republic of Cabinda Flag
editThe Republic of Cabinda Flag is White Black and Orange. The Flag of FLEC FAC is yellow, red and blue. Do not change the flags if you do not know what is what. Sincerely yours,
Rui Gabirro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.115.238 (talk) 01:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- This may be so, but you need to source this. Your account has been used for vandalism elsewhere, so it can't just be accepted on your word alone. Greenman (talk) 07:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- There seem to be various groupings involved. One is at cabinda.net. There is another, at cabinda.org. See also flagspot.net. Greenman (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Gabirro has added false information about a fantasy government in exile, national bank, passport, and organization of African states, the information has been edited to reflect the truth. If one does a simple Google search on Rui Gabirro alias Mangovo one will see he has been disowned by FLEC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resistk (talk • contribs) 16:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
The article has been hacked by Rui Gabirro - there is no such thing as the Federation of free African States, no Cabindan will work with the Portuguese Gabirro, who fancies himslef by several fake titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.20.156.69 (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- This article had a a lot of pish-posh by Gabirro AKA Mangovo who has been booted out of FLEC along with Mingas and Lopes. Corrections have made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Resistk (talk • contribs) 00:29, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- The coat of arms and flag are fantasies by Rui Gabirro and are only seen at his website, the FLEC flag is correct.
Vandalism by: Greenman
edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greenman
Could some one in Wikipedia Stop the Bullying and Vandalism by Greenman.
I Rui Gabirro am the Propietor of the Shield of Cabinda.
My E-mail address is gabirro@gmail.com and my phone number is 44-1304226033 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.47.91 (talk) 15:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Rui Gabirro (please Google) does indeed own the so called shield of Cabinda however this is not the indicia of Cabinda at all - Dr. Jonathan Levy, Legal representative for Republic of Cabinda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Resistk (talk • contribs) 03:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Coat of Arms
editI wonder, which is the correct Coat of Arms, as I foung three different looking versions:
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Cabinda FLEC version on resident cards
Which version should we use here? I think, the FLEC one is best. Any objections?
--Saippuakauppias ⇄ 22:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Subject of the article
editIt is unclear, wether this article is about Republic of Cabinda (1975–1976), or Republic of Cabinda (non recognized country). These might have different state insignia, as pointed out by @User:Swiãtopôłk in recent edits. I propose to make two articles
- Republic of Cabinda (1975–1976) and another one
- Succeeded by Cabinda Province within Angola
- Breakaway state.
Maybe the latter should be integrated in the article of Cabinda Province, as some sections are a copy from it anyway. What do you think? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 11:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Saippuakauppias I agree with this idea, this article should be limited to self-governing Cabinda in the 1970s. As for the Republic of Cabinda as a proposed solution to the conflict, I don't think we have anything to fill it with so as not to repeat information about the war itself. Sections on geography and climate are unnecessary. I think it would be ideal to have a History section and a "Establishment" subsection where there would be an outline of what politics were like in the region, an "MPLA Invasion" section about the fall, and a "Legacy" or "Restoration Demands" section with a brief description of the guerrilla warfare and a redirect from the main article to FLEC. It would be even better if it were possible to create "Economy" and "Army" sections, even if they only had a few sentences. I think adding the years to the title is a good idea, even if there was only one republic, but using the term as a synonym for FLEC is also common. Unfortunately I won't be able to do it anytime soon, I only know flags and I'm already tired of topics from Angola. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 17:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)