Talk:Republic of China Navy

Tables for ships?

I was wondering if anyone had any objections to organizing the list of ships in the fleet into a table similar to the aircraft in the interest of clarity and saving space? Example below. -Loren 07:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Class	Origin	Type	In service	Notes
Kee Lung class	United States	Destroyer	4	Kidd class
Cheng Kung class	Taiwan	Frigate	8	Oliver Hazard Perry class produced under licence by CSBC Corporation, Taiwan.
Chi Yang class	United States	Frigate	8	Knox class
Kang Ding class	France	Frigate	6	La Fayette class
Hai Lung class	Netherlands	Submarine	2	Zwaardvis class
Hai Shih class	United States	Submarine	2	Tench class
Hsuhai class	United States	Amphibious	1	Anchorage class
Chung Ho class	United States	Amphibious	2	Newport class
Chung Hai class	United States	Amphibious	10	LST-1
Mei Lo class	United States	Amphibious	4	LSM-1
Yung Yang class	United States	Minesweeper	4	Aggressive class
Yung Feng class	United States	Minesweeper	4	MMW50 class
Ching Chiang class	Taiwan	Guided missile patrol	12
Kung Hua VI class	Taiwan	Guided missile patrol	1	30 planned but funds currently frozen due to disputes over tendering process.
Hai Ou class	Israel	Guided missile patrol	48	Dvora class.
Da Guan class	Taiwan	Survey	1

Grammar

"Aircraft" not "aircrafts", please. John Smith's (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Upper or lower case and general style

In the tables that list the various aircraft, missiles, etc and anon-IP editor has changed upper case descriptions to lower case ones. For example "maritime patrol aircraft" instead of "Maritime patrol aircraft". I personally prefer upper case, so unless anyone has strong objections I will change them over when I have the time. Otherwise please leave your views here.

Furthermore I agree with Loren's proposal above. I don't like the colour of the current table, nor the fact it's separated. I'll look into carrying out the work when possible. John Smith's (talk) 20:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Further to there being no objections, I have changed the table colour to a nice "naval grey" which is more in keeping with the article's theme (the blue-green was not nice). I have also merged destroyers and frigates together into "surface combatants", rather than have a table for one class of ship.

On the matter of aircraft in service, I don't think it would be appropriate using a citation from four years ago. John Smith's (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I've also made a few edits to try to get the pictures to line up properly and remove clashes between the "edit" links and the pictures - apologies for not getting it on the first edit. John Smith's (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

One last thing. I changed the patrol ship entry to "Fast Attack Missile Craft", as they all carry anti-ship missiles so there's no point using the more generic "patrol" type. John Smith's (talk) 16:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

under construction

I disagree with removing that information. Saying when something will be completed is not the same as saying its currently under construction. So I will revert its omission to restore that piece of information.Giovanni33 (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

In that case it's also misleading to say 30 are under construction, as they're not. I am changing the entry accordingly. John Smith's (talk) 00:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Edits by 24.85.227.16‎

This editor has been removing wikilinks from all three ROC military pages with no explanation. I have reverted his latest changes as vandalism - please be on the look-out. If he does it again, please report him. John Smith's (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Removal of flags

I have restored the flags because Pyl's justification in removing them is invalid - there is no "flag convention". There is a MoS that makes suggestions over how they can be used, but I do not see anything that contradicts their use here.

He has complained that:

1. The flags make the article difficult to read.
2. These tables do not fall into the MoS guidelines.
3. It is confusing to use the ROC flag with the word "Taiwan".

I would respond as thus:

1. The flags do not make the article difficult to read and actually enhance the tables, making the origins easier to identify.
2. The MoS gives suggestions, not a finite number of examples, as to when flags can be used. Again, a MoS is not binding and there appropriate people can make their own styles.
3. It is not confusing at all, because Taiwan is a well known location. On the other hand "Republic of China" is highly confusing. Having "Taiwan" is thus a lot better and as the flag is flown on the island there's no reason not to use it.

On another note I am trimming the arms discussion as most of it is not relevant to the navy. John Smith's (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

New infobox

Republic of China Navy
Naval Jack of the Republic of China
Active	1924-present
Country	Republic of China
Size	23,000 Sailors, 30,000 Marines (2004 est.)
Commanders
Commander In Chief, ROCN	Admiral Kao, Kuang-Chi
Insignia
Insignia	[[Image:Rocn.png|70px|Insignia of the ROC Navy]]
Aircraft flown
Multirole helicopter	Sikorsky S-70 Seahawk Hughes 500MD Defender
Patrol	Grumman S-2 Tracker Lockheed P-3C Orion

New infobox for the article. add details as required and remove the <nowiki> tag before posting --Wanders1 (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hai Shih class submarines: One Tench, one Balao

The article lists both Hai Shih submarines as Tench-class. However, one of them, the former USS Tusk (SS-426), is actually Balao-class. -- 188.194.254.195 (talk) 14:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Cheng Kung-class frigates

Cheng Kung-class frigates were locally built in Taiwan not second hand purchased from the US, there is a entire wiki page about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.199.203.79 (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2017 (UTC)