Talk:Republic of Loose/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: maclean (talk) 01:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

GA review (see Wikipedia:What is a good article?)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Notes

• 1 Creative Commons image. 2 Fair use sound files. File:Republic of Loose The Steady Song.ogg is used in 3 articles; it requires a separate, specific non-free use rationale for this specific article (see Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline.

Who is the copyright holder of this file?

Added. --candle•wicke 22:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

• In "Formation", "During this time, he was "depressed out of my brains" listening to artists such as Manic Street Preachers." - this is a little over-the-top. First, what does "depressed out of my brains" even mean? Second, in the reference, while Pyro mentions the Manic Street Preachers, he does not directly attribute his depression to listening to them, whereas this WP sentence links them, imo, in an inappropriate way.
• In "This is the Tomb of the Juice":
  • "The band's break, according to Mick Pyro, came when they won "some competition or something, some fucking battle of the bands".[17]" - I think this misses the point. The 'break' was "getting 10 days recording time" which occurred as a result of the battle of the bands.
  • The timeline is a little unclear wrt the signing with Big Cat and the 'lucky break' of a 10 day recording session. The signing is placed first in the paragraph, but wouldn't the recording company give them a recording session?
    • Changed order. --candle•wicke 22:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • ""helped to shoot them into the most wanted category"" - I don't think this quote is helping. The context of the reference is a promotion of concerts occurring that week. I'd prefer to see facts speak for themselves: they toured heavily? played to sold out crowds? sold a lot of albums? This quote is a vague assertion that they are in demand.
    • Removed. --candle•wicke 21:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
• In "Aaagh!":
  • "included a performance in "the lashing rain" at Oxegen 2006" - lots of bands play in the band. I think the point was that the band played + fans danced outside despite the lashing rain.
    • Added. --candle•wicke 21:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
  • References 39-41 (Bill Browne's The Corkman piece) are all the same word-for-word. I think only one should be listed here.
    • Removed two. --candle•wicke 22:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
• In "Vol IV"
  • "...hip hoppers Millionaire Boyz and Sinéad O'Connor.[1]" - wait, what?
    • What exactly do you mean? I don't know anything about the first one and the second has her own article. --candle•wicke 22:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
      • I just thought it was funny. I made it unfunny by listing Sinéad O'Connor before the adjective "hip hoppers". -maclean (talk) 00:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
• The lead insists they play "Blues,[3] funk,[4] metal,[1] R'n'B,[5] pop,[3] rock,[3] soul[4]" but the rest of the article (most notably absent from the "Influences and style" section) only mention funk and soul
  • Mentioned. --candle•wicke 22:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
• The third paragraph of the lead is an extraordinarily long sentence.
  • Divided in two. --candle•wicke 22:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Conclusion

This article has good narrative and structure. Its weak point is the use of quotes without sufficient context. For example the second paragraph of "Influences and style" provides a list of other people endorsing the band without any explanation (is this style or influences?). "Comeback Girl" is "one of the greatest songs ever recorded"....ok...care to provide context?...or it just is? This paragraph could be reduced to two or three sentences by removing such undescriptive promotional quotes as "a real privilege my friends, a massive privilege".

• (i) Adjusted (ii) That's what the Scottish novelist said (iii) Reduced. --candle•wicke 21:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. --candle•wicke 21:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)