Talk:Resident minister

Residents in (British) Africa

Witu was never part of Tanganyika nor of German East Africa. It was a separate German protectorate for a very short time. --Kipala (talk) 11:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

“Pseudo-colonial”?

Is this really meant? I suppose “quasi-colonial” or (more uncommon) “crypto-colonial”“ would fit this category better. --Malcolm77 (talk) 10:21, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 28 November 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Resident minister. No such user (talk) 12:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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Resident (title) → Resident (diplomat) – Resident is a disamguation page and we use "(title)" to distinguish this article from other types of residents. The problem is that a medical resident and a pharmacy resident are also both titles which I found to be confusing when reading about residents in Zanzibar. (Alternatively, we could use Resident minister which is an alternate name here and would be more of a WP:NATURALDIS.) RevelationDirect (talk) 19:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 22:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Strongly oppose change. The terms "medical resident" and "pharmacy resident" are informal job descriptions not titles. Resident as used in this article is a formal title, and is capitalized. A Resident has an administrative, legal or vice-regal role, not diplomatic, which has an an external sense. John beta (talk) 03:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@John beta: The current article intro reads that they "officially has diplomatic functions which are often seen as a form of indirect rule" so we may want to revise the contents of the article regardless of the title. The "crypto-colonial" nature of the role (as @Malcolm77: describes it) means we have the form of a diplomat with the function of a colonial governor. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support either Resident (diplomat) or Resident minister. Current title can't stand due to the confusing/ambiguous nature of the dab, as pointed out by RD. (t · c) buidhe 20:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support Resident minister. The current article title is terrible. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:10, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support Resident minister as much better than the current title, as the actual name of the subject, and as WP:NATURALDIS. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:03, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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Resident [Cabinet] Ministers

One important element is missing, or should perhaps be its own article. This is the practice of the British sending Ministers [in the sense of cabinet members rather than in the diplomatic rank] abroad to various regions to exercise cabinet authority in the field. Harold Macmillan, for example, though there were others. It was a wartime measure, driven by the level of technology they were at- just strong enough communications for a cabinet minister to consult at intervals, just risky enough communications that having a Cabinet Minister in a cluster of colonies or theatre of military operations to act on his own initiative was thought potentially useful. I'd love to read more about this- something must be written about it. Remarkable political flexibility. I raise it here because several articles on men who filled such roles have linked me back to this article, which does NOT properly address this situation at all. Welcome contributions. Random noter (talk) 04:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)