Talk:Rhina ancylostoma

Mud Skate

Hi, I felt that The IUCN Red List was a good enough source to show that "Mud Skate" was a well-known common name. Obviously these names cannot ever have the standing of binomials, but the IUCN would be enough for many of us. The well-respected EOL similarly seems happy with the name. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I've never actually seen "mud skate" used as the main common name for this species in any of the sources I have, so it doesn't have very high standing. But I suppose it is mentioned as an alternate in several, so I'll put it back in. -- Yzx (talk) 16:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bowmouth guitarfish/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk · contribs) 02:56, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The article looks pretty good on the whole. I do have a few comments.

• Why are shark ray and mud skate not listed as other common names?

Since those are already listed in the intro, it didn't seem necessary to repeat them.

I think that since (unless I missed it) you didn't use them to refer to the species anywhere in the article in needs to be in there as the lead is supposed to summarize the body. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 13:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

• Are the analyses referenced in Taxonomy's second paragraph's third sentence still morphological?

Yes; clarified.

• Since this article doubles as the family's page, could you include a bit more history of the family Rhinidae. Was it originally classified in this family, and if not, which family was it placed in?

Added some info on original order placement and where Rhinidae comes from.

• How does the molecular data depict the family? What is it lumped into?

Added some clarification on this.

• In biology, you mention that the bowmouth guitarfish propels itself like a shark. Is this unique for a ray?

No, the sawfishes, wedgefishes, and guitarfishes also swim that way.

• Is there any information on how the bowmouth guitarfish hunts?

Not to my knowledge.

• You may want to rewrite the first part of the sentence on the stable isotope study to make it more accessible to the general audience.

I trimmed it down to just the conclusion. I couldn't think of a short way to explain isotope ratios and it's not that important to the article anyway.

• Why are the scientific names given after the wikilinked common names of tiger shark and bluestreak cleaner wrasse?

I like to do this so that readers can know what species I'm talking about without having to click on the link (kinda obvious for tiger shark, not always obvious for others)

• Any information on the lifespan beyond one 7-year old in captivity?

No.

• A general question, but why are rays treated as sexually mature at a length instead of an age?

Sexual maturity in sharks and rays can be determined by physical examination of the claspers/ovaries, which is relatively easy (especially for claspers, which is why for many less-known species there's only data for male maturation size). Age can only be determined by examining growth rings in the vertebrae, and getting maturation age requires fitting that data to a growth model, which is a much more involved process.

• Is the bowmouth guitarfish's meat "highly esteemed" throughout its range or in just one part of it?

The source comes from India, made a note about it.

• Are there any updates on the Newport Aquarium's captive breeding program?

I looked when I was writing but didn't find anything.

The article looks pretty good otherwise, and the images check out. Thanks.

Let me know of further issues. -- Yzx (talk) 04:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I put shark ray into the list of synonyms, but other than that can't think of any. I'm going ahead and passing it. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 13:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. -- Yzx (talk) 16:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Rhina ancylostomus is currently accepted name on WoRMS

Froese, R. and D. Pauly. Editors. (2023). FishBase. Rhina ancylostomus Bloch & Schneider, 1801. Accessed through: World Register of Marine Species at: https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=148846 on 2023-11-06 Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 17:58, 6 November 2023 (UTC)