Talk:Rhydian Roberts

Update

This article now needs and update. Future tense is used consistently for events that are now in the past.

• This has been dealt with and continues to be. --FClef (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment

He deserves his own page now he's in the final. Content can be updated. Sanjaya Malakar (7th place American Idol) has his own page. Other X-Factor finalists from previous seasons have their own page. Lilana (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana

The notable ones have their own pages. Leona Lewis didn't have her own page until she won the show. Ray Quinn didn't have a page until he released his album. Sanjaya Malakar has released songs. I'll let you keep the page for now and if he wins I'll clean it up. If he doesn't, I'll consider listing it for deletion but I'll see how it goes. ^anemone│_projectors 18:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

It does seem a little odd to me to delete the entry just to reinstate it later once a song is released but if that's the rule then fine.Lilana (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana

He might never release anything. ^anemone│_projectors 23:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Rhydian has been signed for an album deal now so will definitely be releasing music and have a tour.Lilana (talk) 15:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana

He didn't win, this page should be deleted because he isn't a notable person and hasn't had a song out yet. 12bigbrother12 (talk) 22:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I wish whoever the sad person who keeps altering Rhydians page would be ashamed of themselves. Rhydian is now a popular selling artist and doesnt deserve his page being altered to something silly by people adding "kermit" into his name. GROW UP! This is an information page and not something for you to have a joke with. If you dont like Rhydian, then stop visiting here - simple! But leave it for the true fans who DO want to read about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Osamina (talk • contribs) 17:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Voice

He's a tenor, not a baritone. In the contest he regularly sings a tenor top A, well beyond the range of a baritone. 88.109.222.88 (talk) 23:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

No, he's a baritone. Just because he can sing high notes doesn't mean he should be classified as a tenor. Not everybody is restricted to a particular range - the voice type is merely the most common range in which a singer sings, and his normal range is considerably lower than that of a tenor. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I've got to agree with the first person. To classify someone as a baritone when he can hit a high B flat are ridiculous. His upper register is his stronger point, so personally I think he should be classified as a tenor. I don't know what his exact range his, but on "You Raise Me Up" he did hit a B flat and who knows, maybe he can go even higher. I'd agree more along the lines that he's a tenor. Just my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.56.57 (talk) 06:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. No piece that requires a top A (or Bb)could possibly be considered baritone territory. Further, a tenor need not employ the highest reaches of his tessitura to be considered a tenor, as pieces in the standard tenor repertoir saves top tenor notes for its climaxes and for points of emphasis (just as in the arrangements he sings). A singer need not be required to make constant use of notes above F# to be called a tenor. Further, he never makes use of notes below bottom tenor C, which would be required for him to be considered a true baritone. Me thinks this is someone getting protective over his voice type. Reverted. 88.109.12.214 (talk) 23:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

As nobody seems to be able to agree what his voice type is, I have removed it. Find a source if you want to add it. Otherwise it is considered original research and will be removed in future unless it is sourced. ^anemone│_projectors 20:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

As "baritone" has crept back in I checked it. ITV's X Factor website says "Rhydian is a classical baritone singer". Unless a contradictory reference is found I think that should settle the matter. Ros0709 (talk) 21:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Well done :) ^anemone│_projectors 01:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I found another source for this information as well which contains a direct quote from Rhydian - "I’m a big Meatloaf fan too, we’ve both got that kind of quasi-opera thing going on – although he’s a tenor and I’m a baritone.” (The article is about Meatloaf songwriter signing on to work on Rhydian's album) icWales:"Meatloaf writer signs up for Rhydian album" -HeavenlyEire (talk) 09:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Rhydian is definitely a baritone. Classical 'high' baritones can easily hit B-flat in their prime, Titta Ruffo and Sherill Milnes are two examples of baritones who could both hit B-flat. Moreover, their strengths were in the higher register. He may turn out to be a tenor as he matures, as in a similar manner to Placido Domingo, but for now, he is a baritone. Chanhee920 (talk) 19:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

--79.107.108.14 (talk) 13:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC) Rhydian is for 100% percent a tenor.The baritones mentioned above can hit the the notes but not by any chance so easy like Rhydian.Also he's lower notes are very weak and for sure not baritone quality ones.High B Natural is not a note Baritones sing comfortably and this guy does so no baritone at all.

He is a BARITONE, albeit with a mighty range. One of the roles he sang in college, The Count in The Marriage of Figaro, is a staple of the baritone repertoire. --FClef (talk) 18:39, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Yep, all references given in this discussion show he's a baritone. Saying anything other than that goes against Wikipedia policy. WP:OR, WP:VNT and all that. anemoneprojectors talk 19:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation of his name

Does is rhyme with Gideon? --79.175.103.156 (talk) 11:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and obsidian, million, etc. --FClef (talk) 18:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't rhyme with million. That would be "Rhyllian" :) anemoneprojectors talk 18:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Doh! (bangs forehead in self-accusatory way) OK - meridian, Midian (as in "Land of..." in the Old Testament), Ovidian, Wikipedian (yes, I know it's a long e, more like "Reedian) - Wikipiddian..... ("Enough Rhydian rhymes!" Ed.) zzzzz...  ;-)--FClef (talk) 23:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

x factor results

BY rights he should have one! He was by far the best and as the result I think the result was a scam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.71.250 (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

But what rank was he? The best people don't win. That's a pattern: Susan Boyle, Jackie Evancho, Connie Talbot, Crystal Bowersox, SungBong Choi -- all the people who I love came in second or less (Pia Toscano). His rank should be in the article, even if he didn't win. It's still part of his story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Questions

Is he an albino? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Would it matter if he was? but no, his natural colour was/is ginger. They turned his blonde highlights into near white on xfactor and he has continued with this as it has become a trademark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.27.21 (talk) 00:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)