Talk:Rhythms of Resistance

I tried to clean up this page as best I could but if someone more familiar with RoR specifically could help out it would be enormously appreciated.

Some main concerns (note: the examples in the below have now been removed but can be seen in this revision):

1. An over-use of jargon. As an example, the bolded part of the following is incredibly clunky IMO:

With bands forming in across Europe and beyond (with at least two in the U.S. and one in Mexico), an international network of percussive resistance to the march of capitalism is now emerging.

2. Self-promotion. The unnecessarily long list of RoR bands (unnecessary because almost all of them are listed on the RoR website linked at the bottom of the article, and more importantly, Wikipedia is not a link repository) is one example, the overall gushing tone is another.

3. Explicit POV - for example:

Their interest is in empowerment for themselves and others and in maintaining the energy of solidarity and of creative action against the interwoven constructs of those who feel like they need to suppress and exploit the planet and mankind.

Quite aside from the jargon issue again (interwoven constructs indeed), this is hardly an NPOV description of the group.

4. Complete lack of cites for, well, anything. I added a cite to the RoR website giving the English version of what seems to be a common statement from their website.

Some things I think would be helpful at this point include:

1. Third-party commentary on them - news reports of their actions, for example, or commentary on the movement from academic sources.

2. Criticism, if such can be found from a significant (to the subject) and reliable source.

3. References, particularly for the history section - the claim that they were influenced by the Afro Bloc, for example.

4. A few more significant moments from RoR's history - while there are some examples given at present they seem a little random.

ElijahOmega (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Network

Text similar to the following has been added and removed several times now:

The network is fast growing, in 2009 there are local bands being part of the RoR network existing in Amsterdam, Berlin, Bremen, Danzig, Dresden, Frankfurt am Main, Freiburg, Gent, Istanbul, Cologne, Leipzig, London, Lyon, Maastricht, Manchester, Mexiko city, Oberhausen, Osnabrück, Oxford, Paris, Poznan, Sheffield, Sofia, Tel Aviv, Turin and Trojmiasto.

IMO it shouldn't be in the article:

It is unsourced

It is a random list of cities with no information about why they are significant

It adds nothing to the article

That said, since some people apparently want it in, it would be helpful if someone could explain why. --ElijahOmega (talk) 15:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)