Talk:Richard Castle
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Cleanup template
editI placed the cleanup template because in that section someone has been putting episode numbers in parentheses, superscripted, in lieu of a properly formatted source citation. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- I've cleaned up the superscript references into episode citations. Would it be appropriate to create citations for the various other mentions of episodic events in this article?Ischloear (talk) 17:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Not A Fictional Character?
editFrom what I've read, Richard Castle the novelist appears to be a very real person and the Richard Castle from the television show appears to be based on him. Does that mean this article should be rewritten to profile the real Richard Castle? Or should there at least be something to indicate that the character in the show is based on the real-life Richard Castle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.72.181.50 (talk) 15:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
On further reading of the Wiki I guess this is all covered, but it seems confusing. It seems to suggest that this bio is of the fictional character when in fact it is of the real person. In any case, it seems a bit vague to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.72.181.50 (talk) 15:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
From what I've read there is no real Richard Castle author. The book Heat Wave mentioned in the show, was released as a promotion. ---- Audiovore (talk) 09:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Is the book real?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- The book is most definitely real; I'm holding a copy in my hand right now (published by Hyperion, ISBN 978-1-4013-2382-0). It has ABC promotional logos on it but is otherwise played straight down to the picture of Fillion-as-Castle on the dust jacket. References made to the novel on the show, such as the dedication and the infamous sex scene starting on page 105, are correct in the book. Obviously, it's been ghostwritten, but I have no information as to who's responsible. Erbo (talk) 05:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Actually a short search will point to a "hint" in the dustjacket of the book (see note 7 in the article). Further more, some want the publisher to admit that the real author has appeared on Castle and Fillion said the guy appeared (as well as other writers, for example the one whose quote is on the cover, AFAIK). So that one could be the man, but it looks like there are no official/reliable sources to prove that, and in the end everything that is written in that book is fictional, so the "hint" may actually mean nothing. --Elitre (talk) 23:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- Richard Castle is very much a fictional character and not based on a real-life author though the "official line" from the series creators is that Heat Wave & Naked Heat (and the twitter account @WriteRCastle) are all written by "Richard Castle" the character from the series Goer2u4 (talk) 12:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Actually a short search will point to a "hint" in the dustjacket of the book (see note 7 in the article). Further more, some want the publisher to admit that the real author has appeared on Castle and Fillion said the guy appeared (as well as other writers, for example the one whose quote is on the cover, AFAIK). So that one could be the man, but it looks like there are no official/reliable sources to prove that, and in the end everything that is written in that book is fictional, so the "hint" may actually mean nothing. --Elitre (talk) 23:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- The book is most definitely real; I'm holding a copy in my hand right now (published by Hyperion, ISBN 978-1-4013-2382-0). It has ABC promotional logos on it but is otherwise played straight down to the picture of Fillion-as-Castle on the dust jacket. References made to the novel on the show, such as the dedication and the infamous sex scene starting on page 105, are correct in the book. Obviously, it's been ghostwritten, but I have no information as to who's responsible. Erbo (talk) 05:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Something to be mentioned...
editAs seen in "Poof, You're Dead!" ... Gina's last name is apparently "Griffin." --24.193.1.9 (talk) 14:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Further levels of meta-authorship
editThis is the entry on Richard Castle, but should it contain information about Castle's character Jamison Rook? Specifically, in Richard Castle's novels Naked Heat and Heat Rising, it is revealed that Rook writes romance novels under the pen name Victoria St. Clair. Since this entry is about an imaginary author, shouldn't we include the imaginary author that the imaginary author invented by this imaginary author in it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.154.198 (talk) 16:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Bubblegum psychology
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"Richard Castle"
editThis article is mixing the fictional character history, with the real-life nom-de-plume history. Particularly, real-life e-books and ISBNs are being used to represent the fictional works. While ghostwritten novels have been released, this should be clearly segregated from the in-universe versions of those books. There should be a separate section on how the fictional character has become a real-life pseudonym, instead of making representations that appear to have a fictional character write real-life novels. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 12:06, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think splitting the article is the answer; the novels may not be notable enough on their own to merit an article on the author. I can easily forsee a quick recommendation from the community to merge that content back into the main article. The fictional character and the real-life novels are too tightly linked. Far better to fix the existing article so that the distinction is made clearer. --Drmargi (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Except we don't have a main article on the Rick Castle media franchise. (which would overview the literary universe, and the TV universe) We have a TV series article, and we have this article which is a jumble of the literary universe, the psuedonym, the fictional character, etc. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree the article needs to be far clearer. Currently it includes a 'real books' section, and under that a large list of books, most of which are not real books at this time. The actual text of the real book section appears to be accurate and has some sources. May be change the section to 'books' or something, put the real books part in a separate subsection and add a footnote or other indication in the book list to show those books which have had tie in books published. Nil Einne (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- To further illustrate the confusion, I only just realised there is actually a real Derrick Storm novel, Storm Front (which seems a poor choice of title to me, but anyway...). I had thought until now that there were only the ebook shorts/novellas and graphic novels (plus the 1 per season Nikki Heat novels), but it seems I was mislead by the article which provides no clue that Storm Front is a real book. Nil Einne (talk) 08:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- I agree the article needs to be far clearer. Currently it includes a 'real books' section, and under that a large list of books, most of which are not real books at this time. The actual text of the real book section appears to be accurate and has some sources. May be change the section to 'books' or something, put the real books part in a separate subsection and add a footnote or other indication in the book list to show those books which have had tie in books published. Nil Einne (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Except we don't have a main article on the Rick Castle media franchise. (which would overview the literary universe, and the TV universe) We have a TV series article, and we have this article which is a jumble of the literary universe, the psuedonym, the fictional character, etc. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Castle is ALL fictional, except real books
edit- Removed unnecessary requests from editor unable to distinguish real and fictional authors and universes. Difference is clear to intelligent enthusiastic fans.
- Added note in lead to ensure knowledge shared publicly.
- Inserted following comment explanation below lead to save repetition of confusion.
- Included, as always, reliable references and inline citations, one chosen from more to ensure truth and support facts.
- Added requests to update and expand Real book section with details of dates published, ISBNs, citations
- Note
Richard Castle is a fictional author in a fictional world, with an official website to promote real books about Nikki Heat, by secret writers *1, rumored to include Tom Straw and Brad Parks. *3 Actor Nathan Fillion plays the role for book tours and signs autographs as Castle. *2
- Comment:
Richard Castle is a fictional author in a fictional world. In our real world, real publisher Hyperion and/ or network have taken advantage of popular long-running TV series and set up a fictional official website, hired Fillion and ghost writers. Actor Nathan Fillion does book tours, signs autographs, and represents his role. The books really do feature Nikki Heat, supposedly inspired by NYPD Kate Beckett, and revived Derrick Storm. *1 Ghost writer(s) have been kept somewhat secret *2, but Amazon post (C. Hagle 3 May 2013 11:02:04 PM PDT)says bios in books reveal truth, including Tom Straw and Brad Parks. &3
- Refs:
- 1 http://www.richardcastle.net/books Castle book series official website
- 2 http://books.usatoday.com/bookbuzz/post/2011-09-29/heat-rises-for-richard-castles-third-thriller/549525/1 Nathan Fillion tours for secret ghost writer(s)
- 3 http://www.amazon.com/Who-real-author-book/forum/FxLBP607RENYIX/Tx1WWH7CJ0F0FM0/1/ref=cm_cd_pg_oldest?_encoding=UTF8&asin=140011425X&cdSort=newest Tom Straw, Brad Parks (C. Hagle 3 May 2013 11:02:04 PM PDT)
Image Problem
editNot to be pedantic, but the image is not Nathan Fillion as Richard Castle. Its Nathan Fillion as Malcolm Reynolds, the actor's role in Firefly. Should we shrug and figure why bother? Or should we change it to an accurate picture of the correct character?JackFloridian (talk) 04:04, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's an early Castle image. I'll grant you the leather jacket does recall Mal, but he wore a red shirt and suspenders, and Fillion was much younger. Castle wore that jacket in the first season, I believe it was. --Drmargi (talk) 04:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
CIA Operative?
editThe first sentence in the catgeory "Family Life" is "Castle is the father of Alexis Castle and the son of Martha Rodgers (who both live with him) and a CIA operative who has used the aliases "Jackson Hunt" and "Anderson Cross" even with a Reference to an episode... However, Richard Castle is NOT a CIA operative - This Alias refers to his father whos real name is still unknown. Since I do my work in the german Wikipedia and not the english I don't want to change it myself, so please check and change someone. Thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruffy1989 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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editShould Johanna be listed as his mother-in-law? She might be deceased, but she's still Beckett's mother; maybe include a notation of her death? --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 02:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- She died before the series even started so she not be in the infobox. She doesn't actually have any relationship with Castle so there is no need to include her here at all. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:12, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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