Talk:Richard Coeur de Lion (statue)
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Who paid for the statue?
editSomething on the financing of the statue and its move would be interesting. For example, was it paid for from taxation? Norvo (talk) 21:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
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Better title?
editI wonder if one of the following titles might be more appropriate:
- Statue of Richard I of England (per the parent article title: Richard I of England)
- Statue of Richard Cœur de Lion
- Statue of Richard the Lionheart
@Ham II: Thoughts? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Here are the ways the statue's referred to in the sources I've got to hand: (They're all from the bibliography or external links sections of this page, sometimes in different editions from the ones listed there.)
- Baker 1995 (p. 29): Richard I (Coeur-de-Lion)
- Blackwood 1989 (p. 56): Richard I
- Blundell & Hudson 1998 (p. 52): King Richard Coeur de Lion
- Bradley & Pevsner 2003 (p. 217): Statue of Richard I
- Gleichen 1973 (p. 36): Richard I
- Historic England: Statue of Richard I
- Kershman 2013 (p. 76): Richard I (Coeur de Lion)
- Matthews 2018 (p. 37): Richard I, Coeur de Lion
- Ward-Jackson 2011 (p. 167): Richard Coeur de Lion
- Not sure from this whether there's evidence here for a WP:COMMONNAME that includes Coeur de Lion, or whether we should go for the descriptive article title Equestrian statue of Richard I per the guideline for equestrian statues at MOS:ART/TITLE. Prioryman and Miyagawa, as the two editors who've worked most on this article, how do you feel about the title? Ham II (talk) 21:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to say that as a work of art, we should be guided by the artist's chosen name for the statue. If you look at contemporary sources, it's very clear that Marochetti called it Richard Coeur de Lion (cf. the Illustrated London News, Saturday, Jan. 12, 1861). So I would suggest using Richard Coeur de Lion in the title (whethe as Statue of Richard Coeur de Lion or Equestrian statue of Richard Coeur de Lion, as we know in this case exactly what the artist termed it. Prioryman (talk) 23:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't mind, I'm happy to go with whatever people is most appropriate. Miyagawa (talk) 11:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to say that as a work of art, we should be guided by the artist's chosen name for the statue. If you look at contemporary sources, it's very clear that Marochetti called it Richard Coeur de Lion (cf. the Illustrated London News, Saturday, Jan. 12, 1861). So I would suggest using Richard Coeur de Lion in the title (whethe as Statue of Richard Coeur de Lion or Equestrian statue of Richard Coeur de Lion, as we know in this case exactly what the artist termed it. Prioryman (talk) 23:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)