Talk:Richard F. Heck

Four things

1. An example of a "classic" Heck reaction should be given. (note that the diagram in the Heck Reaction page inexplicably flips R-X in the product, making the actual reaction more difficult for the non-chemist to follow, should be: R-X + =-R' → R-=-R' + HX, 2. He got his BS and PhD in WHAT? BS in Chemistry? BA is Gender Studies? PhD in Organic Chemisty? Organometallic Chemistry? Basket Weaving? 3. Intramolecular is jargon, should be linked to Intramolecular_reaction and probably should have a note in explanation that they are a small subset of all reactions and involve a single molecule reacting with itself (where both the X group and the =-R' group are part of the same molecule). 4. In the box at right, his spouse (deceased 2012) should be listed. 216.96.78.78 (talk) 19:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I've made most of these changes. For 1, it might be visually clearer as =-R', but R' has partial positive charge compared to a vinyl group, and reactants are usually written with the more positive part on the left. In the products, the way it's drawn there makes it clear that R was an electrophile and R' was a nucleophile that underwent substitution at the vinyl group. For 2, neither of those degrees really are "in" something. The major biographical detail is the doctoral advisor. I added Saul Winstein to the infobox. For 3 and 4, I made those additions. Roches (talk) 07:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

About the "intramolecular reaction" part: I changed it, but I think it's only a small improvement. I don't really like that section. It claims that the reaction was accepted slowly by the organic synthesis community, but that claim isn't sourced. And a number of pages is not really a good qualitative indicator of a reaction's 'popularity', particularly if it's only a number of pages about a specific application. It would go off-topic to discuss intramolecular Heck reactions much further in that paragraph, so why mention them at all? They're useful for making new ring systems in a molecule, but I don't know how many of the 377 pages were about ring-closing reactions, and that doesn't establish anything about the supposed slow acceptance of the reaction. Roches (talk) 16:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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