Talk:Richard Fielder (writer)

Requested move 19 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Proposed title will be turned into a dab page per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 12:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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Richard Fielder (writer) → Richard Fielder – I was trying to do a rounnd robin move of the Richard Fielder (writer) page to Richard Fielder, over Richard Fielder (writer), as the only other Richard Fielder was a 18th century cricketeer who played a few games. I didn't understand that I would need a no redirects permission, but there are no pages that link to Richard Fielder anymore (as I updated the references for the cricketer).

My reasoning this page (Richard Fielder (writer)) is referenced from a lot of other pages (in fact, it was those references that were erroneously leading me to the cricketer in the first place and started me down the path to create the Richard Fielder (writer) page). MEQCallaghan (talk) 10:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: Due to this article being so new, it doesn't seem to have any pageview stats available yet, which makes it hard to assess whether there's a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. At the moment my gut feeling is that there's no primary topic, and so therefore the Richard Fielder title should point to a DAB. However, I think it's also plausible that this article comes to surpass the cricketer's pageviews – so if that comes to pass then I think it would be fruitful to revisit this question. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Just fyi, WP:MALPLACED guides us that the base name should not redirect to it's dab page, that is, Foo should not point to Foo (disambiguation). If there is no ptopic, then the base name should be the title of the dab page, and the base name (disambiguation) page should redirect to the base name. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 17:16, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

    I completely agree; I'd intended to express that my view was that Richard Fielder itself should be the title of the DAB page. Apologies for the lack of clarity. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:23, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

• In terms of the cricketer, I can probably add a few more details to the article, and there might be a little bit more out there in very expensive and hard to find reference books, but there's nothing obvious showing up online and I suspect that this is an article that might end up getting merged at some point in the future, although that's far from certain. Primary topics are tricky in cases like this; it might be better to wait six months and revisit if people want to look at page views. The cricketer is pretty obscure, but I'm not certain how much less obscure the writer is! Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose – if it were as simple as you say, you could have asked for help at WP:RMTR. But a primarytopic takeover is seldom uncontroversial, esp. with a new article with no stats as Blue points out. Dicklyon (talk) 05:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose and turn Richard Fielder into a disambiguation page. No obvious primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:07, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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