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The original form of this section had in the subtitle "Diplomatic legacy: The Lyons School of Diplomacy" and in the text "He founded the Lyons School of Diplomacy...."
This formulation read as if Lyons had founded an academic institution at which he trained diplomats. What is meant by the historians, mainly Jenkins as cited, is the more metaphorical sense of "school", meaning a tradition of intellectual or personal influence, or the people who form part of that tradition over time. I made modest adjustments to the subtitle and text to reflect this, and added an additional reference to Jenkins in the second paragraph as this historian has been a principal advocate for Lyons having had this influence Random noter (talk) 23:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
I agree with your alterations. I have made a further few edits to the sentence structure, and added some detail about the other historians who have made similar comments. TrevelyanLittle (talk) 19:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
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If no-one objects, I would like to remove some of the glaring anachronisms here. The concept of a "special relationship" between the United Kingdom and the United States did not exist in the 19th century, so it is really bizarre to have the article talk of Lyons's role in the "special relationship" in the manner that it does. Likewise, the Entente Cordial was not signed until 1904, long after Lord Lyons's death. Anglo-French relations were not friendly in the 1880s-1890s, indeed the two nations came very close to going to war with each other during the Fashoda crisis of 1898. Lord Lyons may worked for Anglo-French relations, but to say that work contributed to the signing of the Entente Cordial in 1904 is really overstating things. --A.S. Brown (talk) 08:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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