Talk:Richard fitz Gilbert

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Is "Richard Fitz Gilbert" the name of a person? The article should include a description, preferably in the first sentence, something like "Richard Fitz Gilbert was a member of the peerage who lived in England in the 12th Century..." As it stands, the article just jumps into aliases and history.Michael Dorosh^Talk 00:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I put in a minor introductory sentence, with a brief definition; certainly the article still needs some clean-up. Lindsay H. 22:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Was the person described in the article, Richard fitz Gilbert or was he Richard fitz Baldwin, of the following generation? Richard fitz Gilbert was of he same generation as Duke Richard III of Normandy, born in 997. This would have made him fairly old for warfare in 1066. On the other hand, the description in the article seems to fit Baldwin, lord of Le Sap and Meules's third son. (RJP 12:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)) Query answered: the name does look correct as Baldwin and Richard, both Gilbert's sons were with Duke William in the invasion. Though of the same generation as Richard III, Baldwin and Richard fitz Gilbert must have been younger.(RJP 13:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC))

This may partially explain further. I added it to the introductory sentence: Richard fitz Gilbert (of Tonbridge), is once referred to as Richard of Clare in the Suffolk return of the Domesday Survey (c. 1086) (ed. A. Rumble, Suffolk, 2 vols (Chichester, 1986), 67 ~ 1).Mugginsx (talk) 11:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Also inserted para from chronicler Gerald , hope it explains in detail who was who. Mugginsx (talk) 10:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Lindsay: You are doing it again - following me around and editing my edits which no one else has refuted. You are going to get a reputation as a vandal if you do not stop. It will become so obvious that the administrators are not going to miss it this time.

I put back my information for the same reasons as written on the de Clare discussion page in which you challenged only my edits. I even looked up the word "progenitor" for you. Please do not start with me again. It is unkind and not up to Wiki standards. Mugginsx (talk) 19:20, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

The "Issue" link to daughter "Rohese de Clare" links to the wrong Rohese. Following the link to her page, she is described as the daughter of Gilbert fitz Richard de Clare (who is also listed here as issue), and Adeliza de Clermont. These are two different Roheses, one the aunt of the other. I am not (yet) a wikipedia contributor, so will not remove the link myself. 2601:644:8400:DCC0:5D3E:C714:504B:7145 (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

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