Talk:Richmond Giants

Sourcing is inadequate

• The sourcing is to your own self-published book, which is not a WP:Reliable source. Instead, please use the primary source that you used in your book, without making any reference to your book.
• The sources to seamheads go to generic pages that confirm nothing about the existence of this team.
• The agate type source makes no mention of this team.
• Wordpress blogs are cannot be used as sources.

If you are able to provide any third party proof that this team existed as presented, please advise. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 04:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Arpaint06: After poking around some more, I'm of the belief this team is more of a remnant of the busted up ABCs rather than an independent entity. I believe this would be best served as a section in the ABCs' article, rather than a stand alone article. I'm thinking a merge would be more appropriate. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 05:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Bison,

Thank you for your guidance on the issues. I actually read all the documentation and taught myself some source code to pull this off - not bad for a beginner, but sorry there are issues. Anyway, this is a team that may have began from the crumbled remnants of a small ABCs team, but it became its own independent outfit, playing in a minor league stadium in Richmond, Indiana. The team featured only a couple former members of the collapsed 'Jewell's ABCs', the rest sprang out of Indianapolis, players based out of Chicago, as well as at least one Richmond resident. I am happy to send any documentation pulled directly from the period newspapers about this team - I hope you please excuse my inexperience in writing wiki articles, but this team's existence is completely ironclad, and independent of the ABCs. Best,

Arpaint06 (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Can the newspaper articles be accessed online? Other than the sourcing, the article goes off-topic a bit with details that should be on the players' articles or ABCs article, as this article should concentrate mainly on the Richmond team. What you have written, which is not uncommon, is a good essay for a SABR journal (which you might also want to consider), but needs to be trimmed down for a more precise encyclopedia article. I haven't had time lately, but I can tighten it up this week here and there. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 17:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)