Talk:Right of initiative (legislative)

"unlike parliament, which is just a governmental body."

I can't disagree enough. Certainly under the British model Parliament is not a governmental body in itself, rather the government is (mostly) a subset of Parliament.

Parliament is the supreme legislative body and does possess legislative initiave. Indeed in the UK Parliament is theroetically the sole soverign legislative body and all others (be they devolved assemblies or local councils) have their right to legislate anything devolved to them from Parliament.

I think the distinction intended here is that Parliament mostly enacts the legislation of the government (whose party comprises its majority) whereas in a congress there is greater freedom from Presidential influence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Virtual Monster (talk • contribs) 13:37, 29 November 2004

The US Constitution uses the term "legislative power". "Legislative initiative" seems to be used to refer to the general process of proposing a bill.[1] [2] --Foggy Morning (talk) 20:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

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Governments alone?

"In parliamentary systems it is common that both the government (executive) and the parliament have legislative initiative, but it also can be restricted to the government and the lower house of parliament, or even to the government alone."

I did yet not find a parliamentary system where the government alone has the right of initiative - but the EU. And there is no source mentioned for this.

Anyone?

Michael X. Bolain — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.244.64.158 (talk) 14:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I agree. And this is utmost relevant because under the system of separation of powers, which is well accepted by democrats since the time it was published in 1748 (Montesquieu, L'esprit de lois) the powers are constructed and thought as antagonist who are controlling each other to the benefits of the democrats, the citizens.

It is in fact unbearable and highly distructive to mutilate the parliament by putting it's most important possibility to act into the hands of the government (EU-Commission) or make iniatives depend on the good will of any other governmental body (like the EU-Council).

"The right of initiative is no less important than the right to vote, and history shows that a policy based on fear or hatred of public freedoms has always led to a restriction of the parliamentary initiative."

Eugène Pierre (*1848), Lecture on politics, elections and parliamentary law

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Pierre_(secr%C3%A9taire_g%C3%A9n%C3%A9ral)

Polka Dot

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