Talk:Rimé movement

Moving Forward

I paired back the Dorje Shugden controversy to a mere mention, since it only vaguely relates to Rime in my opinion and is covered in significant depth on other articles as we all know so well by now. I'd also like to archive all of the discussion on this page into an archive subpage soon so I don't have to keep looking at the personal attacks. But if someone thinks that the discussion is still going we should wait and archive later. What say you? - Owlmonkey (talk) 20:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I believe that I have provided many unbiased sources to show that the Rime approach is eclectic. I was waiting for Thegone to provide citations to show otherwise. He agreed to my compromise before, which I will hold him to, unless other users have opinions. To summarize, I don't believe that the Rime movement itself is eclectic (and in that sense I agree with Thegone that Rime is not an eclectic school); but from the sources I quoted above, I understand that the Rime movement promotes an eclectic approach in the student, in terms of study and practice. Emptymountains (talk) 21:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Update: User:Thegone has been banned indefinitely, so I recommend going ahead and archiving this talk page. I'm going to implement the compromise that he agreed to, which I mentioned just above, but I am willing to discuss it further if others disagree. Is the rest of the article okay with everybody? Do we want to revert it back to an earlier date? 205.145.17.20 (talk) 22:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I have no objections, and I want to thank Owlmonkey in particular for trying to find a middle way. --Dspak08 (talk) 08:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Discussion archived. - Owlmonkey (talk) 05:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

There are some personal povs or one-sided claims in the article I remove now. The intro is in contradiction to later passages and the explanation of RT. --Kt66 (talk) 21:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion of Dorje Shugden controversy on Rimé page

If we check the the activities on this page over the last month or so, it is clear that it is better to keep the referencing of the Dorje Shugden controversy to a minimum. Otherwise, this page becomes simply a reproduction of an already existing article, as both sides seek to put in their POV. So for balance, we just mention that these are related issues and we send people over to the DS controversy article. This was an agreement reached by the editors of this page after some very ugly back and forth. Therefore, I kindly request those seeking to put their views on the DS controversy into this page to consult the archive of the talk pages. This is already an explosive issue, but to rediscuss it on every page where there is something even remotely related can quickly make things quite messy. So my understanding of the agreement is in this space we agree not to go into it other than refer people to the main article on the controversy. Do we all agree? --Dspak08 (talk) 08:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd prefer to keep it just to a mention. My reasoning is primarily that it's not really a rimé issue. It's worth a mention because it purportedly concerns orthodoxy, but as the Dorje Shugden controversy article shows, it's much more complex than just an argument about sectarianism. Further, the rimé movement itself is not entirely idealistic in its origin, so to even paint it as an idealistic anti-sectarian view is not entirely right either. - Owlmonkey (talk) 14:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Information provided from David N. Kay is not reliable, is most likely fabricated. Losangvirupa (talk) 23:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Added another link and removed a passage from this talk page

I added a link to the Rime article to Ringu Tulk’s main centre. Then I deleted a section here that was inserted anonymously and is part of a campaign of New Kadampa Tradition people to denounce me and my work. There was nothing substantial in it and it was posted without being signed or contributing to the discussion. Kt66 (talk) 09:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

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