Talk:Ring-inscription

Latest comment: 17 years ago by Csernica in topic Did Tolkien plagiarized Kipling?

Someone should really also add the inscription using the actual tengwar, but hmm, admittedly, that's tricky. Kim Bruning 17:44, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

What's tricky? We can either use Image:One_Ring_Inscription.png or, if we'd like to avoid the stupid copyright issues, we can use some free Tengwar font type the text and make a screenshot. Personally I'd rather use the simplier first approach (I am adding the inscription to the article now), but if someone objects, write here and hopefully someone (may be even I) will waste some time to make a "clean-room" implementation. :) Paranoid 15:45, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yay! Thank you very much! Kim Bruning 18:50, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've got a font that would do the trick. Alternately, I could just write one. It wouldn't exactly match the script, but it would convey the sense and basic form of the inscription. --[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 21:08, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I found this line in the text of this article: "It seems that the inscription uses Elvish lettering because the other Rings of Power were made by the Elves." Is this the whole story (or even the most important part of it)? My understanding was that Sauron more or less had to use an Elvish script because that was all anybody had, and the Tengwar script was readily adaptible to any language. It seems to me that if Elvish influence were responsible, it would have been written in some other language, since the Black Speech was anathema. --[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 21:08, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler alert?

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Should there be a {{spoiler}} in here somewhere? The spoiler is in the photo caption. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 16:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Meh. Nothing in here reveals anything surprising. The nature of the Ring and its history is revealed by Gandalf in Book 1, Chapter 2. The material from the Council of Elrond is in the nature of backstory. TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
I was referring to the line as the Ring is destroyed in Mount Doom which is kinda a spoiler. I know, it's kinda like ruining the end of Titanic by saying, "the boat sinks!" but still some could see it as a spoiler. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 21:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Did Tolkien plagiarized Kipling?

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There's a Rudyard Kipling poem, i don't know from where, but is uncannilty similar to the Inscription...

"Gold is for the mistress, silver for the maid, Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade. Good! Said the baron, while sitting in his hall, But Iron, Cold Iron, is master of them all." - Rudyard Kipling

Can somebody confirm this? 124.82.15.48 18:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Unless the motif of "x [is] for p" is so unique to these two lines of Kipling that he must perforce have inspired anyone else who uses it, there's no similarity at all, canny or not. And I somehow doubt it.
Mind you, Tolkien may well have approved of the poem [1] allegorical though it is. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)Reply