Talk:Rivian R1T

The first?

I have doubts about this sentence: It is the first mass-produced electric pickup truck for the consumer market.

Some sources about what electric pickup trucks were available in China earlier than September 2021:

So I am not sure if the Rivian R1T is the first mass-produced electric pickup truck. Or even the first mass-produced electric pickup truck for the consumer market.

And that's even under assumptions such as: including only modern models (not anything earlier than the 1980s), excluding NEVs, excluding vehicles produced mostly for the military, excluding vehicles which were mostly fleet vehicles or which were mostly leased and not sold (Ranger EV), and excluding cargo vehicles (Mitsubishi Minicab MiEV).

Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC) (edited)

@Periwinklewrinkles: Reliability aside, I am not convinced that these trucks are actually mass-produced. It's hard to find non-user generated information about them online or — hell — even professional pictures. I see that many reliable sources (CNET, Motortrend) have repeated the claim that this is the first mass-produced pickup truck and unfortunately these two articles alone are not sufficient to challenge them. JBchrch talk 00:00, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBchrch: While it does not answer the question whether it's mass-produced, the Ruiqi 6 EV (Rich 6 EV) was written about in English-language online media:.

And at least for that model, you certainly can find pictures, including professional pictures, if you Google for "Dongfeng Rich 6 EV" or "锐骐6皮卡EV" (the electric variant has blue details on the bumpers, so you can tell the EV and ICE variants apart). Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 04:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@Periwinklewrinkles: Ok I'm now convinced that this is not the first mass-produced electric pick up in the world. What do you think of adding "in the United States" to the disputed sentence? We are kind of taking liberties with RS and SYNTH, but I guess it's acceptable in a case like this. JBchrch talk 15:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBchrch:Not that easy, as there was the Ford Ranger EV. There are low-speed NEV trucks. And there was an era roughly a century (or more) ago when electric trucks were relatively popular, I think some products from Walker Electric Trucks count as pickup trucks. Claims of being the first often turn out to be wrong, and that includes Tesla which claimed to be the first with its Model S, it was incorrect despite adding qualifiers like "mass-produced" and "highway-capable" (one reason is that Nissan was already taking preorders for the Leaf in Japan). Some sentences that might be true about the R1T (even though I can't vouch for it): A: It is the first American mass-produced electric pickup truck to have a range greater than 200 miles. B: It is the first modern mass-produced highway-capable pickup truck in the United States to be designed from the ground up as an electric vehicle. Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Periwinklewrinkles: Terribly sorry for the late response. This kinda slipped out of my mind. OK, I'm now convinced by your argument, but unfortunately this does not solve the sourcing issue. I think the most we could go without entering outright OR/SYNTH territory is to say that it's the first mass-produced electric truck for the consumer market in the United States, since our sources are all American. Alternatively, we could say "according to media outlets". JBchrch talk 18:33, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBchrch: One way to resolve this would be to simply not include the disputed sentence in the article. Since it's something that multiple sources wrote, but counter-examples can be found and sourced (the Ford Ranger EV; NEV trucks from GEM/Polaris; and maybe, but that's a maybe, some examples from a century ago). After adding "in the United States" to the sentence as you suggest, it would still be incorrect. Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 17:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

References

Potential sources to improve the article

LEGEND: Y = this source has been used in the article

This list of potential reliable sources was assembled on the Talk:Rivian Talk page, originally by IanRivian, who has straightforwardly disclosed his COI per standard wiki policy, and then further modified by me. I expect to use a number of these sources to improve the article in the coming weeks. Cheers. N2e (talk) 12:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

R1T

• Vehicle details, platform, battery, specs
• YCamp Kitchen
• YTowing capacity
• Vehicle reviews
  • Y
  • Y
• YFirst customer vehicle rolls off the line
• YRivian first to offer all-electric truck

References

Hello, as User:N2e mentioned, I'm a COI trying to help improve and update the Rivian article. (Feel free to check out what's happening on Talk:Rivian if you have time.) I wanted to add some sources that will improve the scope and depth of information on the Rivian R1T. You'll notice these were all published today due to a media embargo that was in place. I am compiling them as they come out. Hopefully this helps fill in some gaps. Best IanRivian (talk) 18:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

• YGilboy, James (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T First Drive Review: The Electric Pickup Revolution Is Real, and It's Here". The Drive. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Golson, Jordan (2021-09-28). "Rivian R1T review: One type of driver is going love this electric truck". Inverse. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• YLingeman, Jake (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T Truck: Review, Trims, Specs, Price, New Interior Features, Exterior Design, and Specifications". CarBuzz. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• "Rivian R1T review: 'the truck market's game-changer' Reviews 2021". Top Gear. 2021-09-28. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Edmunds, Dan (2021-09-28). "Truck to the future". Autoblog. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Goodwin, Antuan (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T was definitely worth the wait". Roadshow. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Davies, Chris (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T First Drive – The Next Electric Benchmark". SlashGear. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• YMoloughney, Tom (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T First Drive Review: Electric Off-Road Dominance". InsideEVs. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Casimiro, Steve (2021-09-28). "Drive Test: Rivian R1T Sets a New Standard for Pickups—Gas or Electric". Adventure Journal. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Y"Rivian R1T first drive: Easily the best pickup I've ever driven, both off road and on". Electrek. 2021-09-28. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Edelstein, Stephen (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T First Drive Review: Tech for the Trail". Digital Trends. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Levin, Tim (2021-09-28). "I got to drive America's first modern electric pickup, the Rivian R1T. It redefines what a truck can be". Business Insider. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Elliott, Hannah (2021-09-28). "Rivian R1T Review: Electric ingenuity but don't depend on it for work". Bloomberg. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Rubin, Josh (2021-09-28). "Test Drive: Rivian R1/T". COOL HUNTING®. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Gastelu, Gary (2021-09-28). "Test Drive: The 2022 Rivian R1T electric pickup is a game-changing truck". Fox News. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Clark, Mitchell (2021-09-28). "Rivian's R1T electric pickup truck took me to the top of the mountain". The Verge. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Duffer, Robert (2021-09-28). "First drive review: 2022 Rivian R1T electric pickup truck climbs to new heights of capability". Motor Authority. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• YPriddle, Alisa (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T Second Drive: A More Production-Ready Example Only Hardens Our Opinions". MotorTrend. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Y"To the mountain and back: Rivian's electric truck and its 314-mile range". Ars Technica. 2021-09-28. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Voelcker, John (2021-09-28). "2022 Rivian R1T First Drive: The First EV Pickup Is Real, And Real Good". Forbes Wheels. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• "2022 Rivian R1T: A really cool pickup truck that's also electric [First Drive]". Pickup Truck +SUV Talk. 2021-09-28. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• YSorokanich, Bob (2021-09-28). "The Rivian R1T Proves That the Perfect Off-Roader Is Electric". Road & Track. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Bible, Adam (2021-09-28). "The Rivian R1T E-Truck Is Almost Here—and It's Legit". Men's Journal. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Carney, Dan (2021-09-28). "The Rivian R1T breaks the electric-pickup game wide open". Popular Science. Retrieved 2021-09-28.
• Korosec, Kirsten (2021-09-28). "First drive: Rivian delivers the electric truck we've been waiting for – TechCrunch". TechCrunch. Retrieved 2021-09-28.

@IanRivian: Thank you for the sources. However, if you want a specific piece of information added to the article, you should follow the steps listed at WP:EDITREQ. I'd be happy to help. JBchrch talk 18:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBchrch: As a COI I'm generally reluctant to request changes, but with your leave I'm happy to point to missing info and better sources. I'll start a new section once I have a few ready. Best IanRivian (talk) 00:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

I've now used about a half dozen of the major reliable source media articles as sources in the article. If it would be helpful to other editors, and if IanRivian does not mind mods to his Talk page input above (wiki standard is no changes to other ppl's Talk page comments), I'll add checkmarks to the sources I've actually used in some way to support material in the article. N2e (talk) 03:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

@N2e: That would be useful to everyone, I think—feel free to add as you see fit. Thanks very much. Best, IanRivian (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

With permission given by the author of the above Talk page section, I've taken the liberty to add a Y (checkmark) by the sources that have been referenced to date to improve the article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 01:20, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Software Section?

Hello. Below I've gathered some sources for the software specs and details for the [[Rivian R1T]. I am wondering if some or all of this information would improve the article, as software increasingly becomes a defining feature for EVs. Also, I believe some content may be appropriate for the Rivian R1S, or main Rivian page. All of the content sources are formatted. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions. Hope this is helpful! Best IanRivian (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Software

Rivian’s electric automobiles are software-defined vehicles. A Human-Machine interface is built with Unreal Engine, a product originally developed for gaming by Epic Games.

Rivian’s electric motors are controlled by computers, via written code. Over the air (OTA) updates provide Rivian owners with new features and performance updates when available.

As of April 2022, the R1T had eight drive modes, All-Purpose, Sport, Off-Road Auto, Off-Road Rock Crawl, Off-Road Rally, Off-Road Drift, Conserve and Tow Mode, each created using computer code. In May 2022, the carmaker released its soft sand offroading driving mode.

Driver+

Driver assist includes highway assist, adaptive cruise control, and lane change assist.

Active safety assist includes: Lane Keep Assist guides the vehicle back to the original lane when it is likely to stray. Lane Departure Warning Blind Spot Warning notifies drivers when other vehicles are in their blind spot to prevent collisions. Light Safety Parking and Reverse Forward Collision Warning Rear Cross-Traffic Warning Park Assist Trailer Assist Automatic Emergency Braking Dynamic Brake Support

Vehicle security Gear Guard Video uses several of the vehicle's cameras to record a 360-degree view of the vehicle while the owner is gone. Gear Guard Cable is a braided steel cable that can secure items like bikes, kayaks, and skis to the vehicle. Gear Guard Alarm sends a notification to the owner via the Rivian mobile app when something happens to the vehicle.

Navigation

Rivian vehicles come with Mapbox navigation software.

HVAC

Active battery heating through the power electronics system mimics the behavior of a heat pump.

Amazon Alexa voice command technology can control HVAC and open the front trunk ‘frunk.’

Charging

DC fast chargers add 140 miles of range in 20 minutes. Supports 500 amp charging, with a peak of nearly 200 kilowatts.

Vehicles can be charged at most electric charging stations using the SAE J1772 connector, at Rivian Waypoints throughout the US and Canada, and via its DC fast charging stations. The Rivian App works with the in-vehicle navigation system for charging status information, and locations, rates and directions to EV charging stations on the road. It provides contactless digital payment.

Apps and Modes

Camp mode includes vehicle leveling, flood light functionality and control over sounds and lights. Pet mode maintains a safe interior temperature while the owner is away. Service mode provides access to vehicle service information.

FleetOS

In August, 2022, Rivian began offering a subscription service called FleetOS. The subscription service provides fleet owners with vehicle distribution, service telematics software services, and vehicle lifecycle management. FleetOS tracks vehicle ownership from purchasing to resale. IanRivian (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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