Talk:Robert Clive

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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Cloptonson in topic Ship Lord Clive

Jagir and fortune

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Unfortunately, hardly anyone today would blink at the 'jagir' of 30,000 pound Clive "was granted" around 1760 if in 2021 it would have been equivalent to 4,300,000 pounds, or if his 'fortune' of 180,000 pounds now had been 25,700,000 pounds as the article states; it simply were huge amounts of money. Calculating these amounts on MeasuringWorth.com indeed gives much larger amounts, about 60,000,000 pounds for the jagir (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/result.php?year_source=1760&amount=30000&year_result=2021), and 3,550,000,000 pounds for his fortune (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/result.php?year_source=1760&amount=180000&year_result=2021), which fits in much better with the description of the circumstances. Calculating on the MeasuringWorth website, the jagir is found as "labour earnings of that income or wealth," the fortune as "relative output value of that income or wealth." VWA (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Bengal Famine

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The number of deaths for the Bengal Famine is much lower here than on the Wiki page for the Famine itself - as this shows his true impact on Bengal society / legacy. 2A01:4B00:F61F:9C00:544A:F959:2D4:4FF2 (talk) 13:24, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

At present both say seven to ten million. William Dalrymple recently said '1-6 million but probably around 2 million'. LastDodo (talk) 15:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ship Lord Clive

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I have removed the following from the article's Legacy section and relegated it to this page until someone can find a source that does support the ship being named for the subject of this article (who was alive in 1763 when the ship sunk - it is rather unusual to name ships after the living):

  • 'Lord Clive' was a ship that was sunk in front of the city of Colonia del Sacramento by Spanish fire during an Anglo-Portuguese attack in the Rio de la Plata in 1763. Its wreck was located in 2004 by diver Ruben Collado.[1]

The Uruguayan source does not state if the ship was named for him.Cloptonson (talk) 18:25, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "En Uruguay, un navire coulé depuis 1763 devrait enfin sortir des eaux". Lalibre.be. Archived from the original on 10 September 2016. Retrieved 2015-05-10. on 10 May 2015.