Talk:Robert Craufurd

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Bluedawe in topic Black Bob's Creek

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Mark Urban's book is not the only one on this subject. Urban is a historian and therefore is welcome to his opinion. Having read Urban's book and also the memoirs of several members of the 95th during this period, many of his soldiers viewed him as strict, but they also loved him because of his ability to win.

I agree with the writer. I added 2 sources to the article and as there seems to be no discussion going on, I removed the pov-tag.Anne-theater 21:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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In 2008, in this series of edits, content was added to the article that was copied from the 2006 ODNB article on the subject. Since this material is copyrighted, I'm afraid it's going to have to be removed unless by chance the 2006 ODNB author copied an earlier version and didn't say so. It would be possible to simply revert the body to prior to these edits, but I decided to blank instead to give contributors a chance to rewrite it if they choose or to salvage subsequent improvements that do not result in a derivative work. Please let me know at my talk page if you have any questions. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

In Robert Craufurd one has to look a little more closely because as the ONDB citations notes

the OBDB article is a review of a DNB article and so what appears to be a copy of the ONDB may be a copy of (a copyright expired) PD text from the DNB, and so working out whether it is a copy of DNB or ONDB is more complicated. However take this sentence:

  • DNB 1797 he was promoted lieutenant-colonel. In the following year he was appointed deputy quartermaster-general in Ireland, and his services during the suppression of the Irish insurrection of 1798 were warmly recognised by General Lake, and especially those rendered in the operations against General Humbert and the French corps (see Cornwallis Correspondence, ii. 402).
  • ONDB 1798 he was appointed deputy quartermaster-general in Ireland, and his services during the suppression of the uprising there, especially his contribution to the operations against General Humbert's French corps, were praised by General Lake.

The addition by User:Hydeblake in June 2008 was

  • 1798 he was appointed deputy quartermaster-general in Ireland, and his services during the suppression of the uprising there, especially his contribution to the operations against General Humbert's French corps, were praised by General Lake.

This is a clear copy of the ONDB and not the DNB. -- PBS (talk) 22:33, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

The text previous to the Hydeblake was largely a copy of the EB1911 text. I have put a link into a copy of that text and also included a link to the Wikisource DNB article. I suggest that the article is rewound back to just prior to Hydeblake's edit: If the rewind involves deleting my two additions here they are:
  •   Bourne, Gilbert Charles (1911). "Craufurd, Robert". In Chisholm, Hugh (ed.). Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 7 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
  • Stephens, Henry Morse (1888). "Craufurd, Robert" . In Stephen, Leslie (ed.). Dictionary of National Biography. Vol. 13. London: Smith, Elder & Co. pp. 14, 15.
-- PBS (talk) 23:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Black Bob's Creek

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FWIW: Black Bob's Creek, NSW. 'A mostly perennial stream rising about 2 km west by south of Exeter (NSW). It flows generally NW for about 22.5 km into the Wingecarribee River.'

Supposedly named by explorer and surveyor Sir Thomas Mitchell for Craufurd, who had served with him in the Peninsular Wars. Bluedawe 00:15, 30 November 2015 (UTC)Reply