Talk:Roberta (musical)

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‚’ ¶ I would really have liked to see a summary of the plot. Sussmanbern (talk) 03:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 2 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Toadette^Edit! 14:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Roberta → Roberta (musical)
• Roberta (given name) → Roberta

– (no preference between finding the name primary or deciding there's no primary and making the dab the base name) Doesn't clear the field in pageviews (not even counting people) and little impression in Google Books/Scholar searches. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 01:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 14:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Clickstreams for Roberta for last month already show the hatnote and the film version article far ahead on top of the outgoing clickstreams, which is very suspect. Indeed, if we consider that this is reasonably common given name, requiring two clicks to get to those biographies is obviously bad navigation (we know from prior examples that there is a contingent of readers who are browsing like this). All-time mass views for all topics named Roberta show the interest in the film (69/day) eclipsing the interest in the musical at the base term (38/day). Clickstreams for Roberta (disambiguation) for last month show readers going for the people list and the film as well. All-time mass views for all people named Roberta in turn show a grossly different picture, with Flack getting 1079/day, McCain 629/day, Vinci 327/day, Shore 282/day, Williams 248/day a featured article, Metsola 207/day, ... the long-term significance of the musical can't compare with all that. Put the people list at the base name, leave the film and the musical in the hatnote just in case, and then let's see how the stats look like a couple months later. (Support) --Joy (talk) 13:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support 1st, oppose 2nd, no clear primary topic per views so move the DAB to base name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

  Moving the disambiguation list to the base name would be an improvement over the current situation, though it'd still be burying the lede. While there's certainly a contingent of readers who are interested in these 1930s works of art, it's doubtful they're more significant to the average English reader than the concept of the name and a bazillion eponymous people. --Joy (talk) 08:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support 1st, oppose 2nd, per Crouch, Swale. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting for clearer consensus as to whether Roberta (disambiguation) should be moved to the base page name. BD2412 T 14:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hameltion do you agree with just going ahead with generic disambiguation at the base name? That seems like it accomplishes the main goal here, let's get it done. --Joy (talk) 15:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Joy: Yes, still no preference. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412 can you confirm the move then? We can continue the discussion at a later date (with better statistics). --Joy (talk) 18:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I would prefer to allow the relist to run for the standard length of a relist. There is no deadline, and it is possible additional opinions will be presented. BD2412 T 18:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. I think the name is the primary topic. The musical most certainly is not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Joy. Regardless of page views, the given name is clearly the primary topic by long-term significance. Bensci54 (talk) 16:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.