Talk:Roberto Clemente

Reassessment

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GA Reassessment

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I notice that a lot of material has been added since the GA revision, most of it since my last edit to the article. I can do my part, but will need an additional week to do so due to the size of the article. Also, if concrete examples could be listed that would be very helpful. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Specifics have been highlighted on the talk page, GAR, and the use of some tags have been implemented into the article. The largest issues revolve around issues pertaining to WP:NPOV and WP:Words to avoid. Additionally, issues with over-tagging. Haven't seen much progress on the issues highlighted within the past week, so if you're willing to plunge forward, more power to you. Zepppep (talk) 02:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The article has been delisted as a GA. With the significant issues in the "Baseball career" section and lingering POV issues (and NPOV tag), and interest from editors shown but edits not materialized, there was no other choice (I made personal pleas to the top 5 contributing editors (excluding Muboshgu, who had already raised issues)but hopefully the article will one day again become a GA! The article is still very strong in other sections but it can no longer (and should no longer) be used as a model for other editors in trying to ascertain what GA means in the real sense. Zepppep (talk) 00:31, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Baseball career

The article's biggest weakness is GA point number four. WP:NPOV issues raised more than one month ago have not seen improvement. "Campanis later claimed," "Campanis did not forget," "having achieved some measure of vindication against the team that let him get away," etc. The article suffers fails in 1(b), as there is an abundance of peacock and ambiguous terms ("rookie sensation", "young phenom," "field day," "Wrigley Field residents," etc.). There are minor MoS issues, such as "bio" instead of "biography", improper spacing and "i.e.". There are also formatting minor errors in some references. Zepppep (talk) 22:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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Should honors and recognitions have its own page?

This page has a serious issue of bulletlist overcrowding consistent with WP:LISTCRUFT, which is a shame, since Clemente could easily produce a FA-class article. As the athlete with most statues in the world, among several homages and even a canonization effort, it’s only natural that this section becomes cluttered very quickly. I propose the creation of a new article to deal with his legacy, whereas this one should be refocused to cover his career and personal life. Old School WWC Fan (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Given the lack of feedback, I went ahead and created a new list for the awards. I intend to purchase as many book s as possible to give this article a GA, and eventually FA, push beginning in the summer of 2023. Any help is welcome. I believe that this page can become one of the best Puerto Rico-related biographies in Wikipedia, it may even become a featured topic if some of the other associated pages are polished (another list, Roberto Clemente Award, is already “featured” class). Old School WWC Fan (talk) 00:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

"Roberto Clemente Sr."

Several reliable sources list Clemente's name as Roberto Sr., which makes sense given that there's a Roberto Jr. and Roberto III now. I added this to the article, but another editor has resorted to edit warring on this point, arguing (on my talk page rather than here) that "Sr." is an English/American naming convention and that Roberto Sr.'s legal name isn't Roberto Sr. Of course, this is the English Wikipedia and no "Sr." has that as their legal name. Thoughts on whether this change should be made in the lede of the article? natemup (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

118th Congress H.R. 4065: H.R.4065 - To obtain and direct the placement in the Capitol or on the Capitol Grounds of a statue to honor American humanitarian and star athlete Roberto Clemente of Puerto Rico.

Bill introduced 06/13/2023 [1].

[1] - https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4065

I don't have edit rights, and not sure how to format anyway, and don't know if bills still in progress count as honors. To me, it does. Thanks. 74.69.75.10 (talk) 17:57, 25 October 2023 (UTC)