Talk:Roc Me Out/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Till I Go Home (talk · contribs) 02:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I will review this article. Till I Go Home (talk) 02:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox

• I don't think the reference is needed for "synthpop".
  •  Done — Tomica (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Lead

• The production was helmed by Stargate (Eriksen and Hermansen) and Knife Party (Swire and McGrillen). -> why helmed? Just produced is fine.
• "Roc Me Out" is a synth-pop song that reminiscents of Rihanna's previous singles "Rude Boy" (Rated R, 2009) and "S&M" (Loud, 2010). -> "Reminiscents of"? That doesn't make sense. Just "reminiscents Rihanna's previous..."
• Change "synth-pop to synthpop for consistency.
• "Contagious hooks" -> contagious should be in quotation marks because you are describing what has been said about the hooks.
• Lyrically, the song shows Rihanna sexually seducing her lover, while revealing her nasty secrets. -> I think this can be worded better. Shows should be replaced with another word because it isn't really "showing". "Nasty secrets" -> again, if quoted from a critic etc. needs quotation marks.
• "music critics" -> wikilink to music journalism.
• Contemporary music critics were divided on "Roc Me Out". Some of them labeled the song as a "highlight" on the album, however, others criticized its similarity with Rihanna's previous singles.

• Use semi-colon (;) between "Roc Me Out" and "some". Change "however" to "while".

• • •  Done — Tomica (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Background

• Again, change "helmed"
• Dean and Stargate collaborated on some of.. -> "Dean and Stargate have collaborated on some of..."
• Get rid of "some of"
• Eriksen and Miles Walker did the recording of the track. -> sounds childish, you can make it sound more sophisticated :)
• All the instruments were provided by Eriksen and Hermansen. -> same as above
  •  Done — Tomica (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Composition

• "synth pop" -> synthpop
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• Music critics noted similarities between the song and some previous singles by Rihanna -> remove "some"
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• and Australian-British band Pendulum whose members Swire and McGrillen co-wrote and co-produced the song. -> comma needed bwtween "Pendulum" and "whose". This sentence should have a reference at the end
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• A reviewer of Sputnikmusic -> reviewer from Sputnikmusic
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• concluded that the song combines the edge sounds of "Rude Boy" and Wiz Khalifa's 2010 single "Black and Yellow" (Rolling Papers, 2011). -> "concluded" is coming to a conclusion. I read the source, and concluded should be changed with another word.
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• Lyrically, the song shows Rihanna sexually seducing her love interest, while revealing her nasty secrets. -> same issue as in the lead
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• her lover "to sex her up" -> 'her lover to "sex her up"'.
•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
• In the end, Rihanna reveals the "dirtiest secret" through the line "I’ll let you in on a dirty little secret, I just want to be loved". David Amidon of PopMatters described the line as a "not exactly a dangerous sentiment". According to him "we ought to be so afraid of hearing women enjoy receiving oral sex, either." -> Hmm this needs work.

  C/e it and removed the second part since its a Critical Reception actually. — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Critical reception

• Michael Jepson from The Fourth Estate concluded that "Roc Me Out" together with "Cockiness (Love It)" and "Do Ya Thang" are top candidates for being the album "highlights". -> Michael Jepson from The Fourth Estate concluded that "Roc Me Out", along with "Cockiness (Love It)" and "Do Ya Thang", are the top candidates of the album's "highlights".

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• He further continued that, "they are so blatantly raunchy and described them as a "follow up" to Rihanna's 2011 single 'S&M'". -> He explained that the songs are "so blatantly raunchy" and noted their similarities to Rihanna's 2011 single, 'S&M'.

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• According to him, "Roc Me Out" is one of the sexiest songs on the album and shocks the audience with its lyrics. -> Jepson also called "Roc Me Out" one of the "sexiest" songs on the album as it "shocks the audience" with its lyrics.

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• but "from Rihanna, it's like she's willfully withholding faith and throwing it back just to tantalize." -> but from Rihanna, "it's like she's willfully withholding faith and throwing it back just to tantalize."

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• Giovanny Caquias of CultureBlues in a review of Talk That Talk, placed the song in a "slut-core quartet" alongside with "Cockiness (Love It)", "Birthday Cake" and "Watch n' Learn". -> In a review of Talk That Talk, Giovanny Caquias of CultureBlues placed the song in a "slut-core quartet" alongside "Cockiness (Love It)", "Birthday Cake" and "Watch n' Learn".

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• He further explained that "Roc Me Out" "is more developed than the others, but still much too mediocre to become Rihanna's twelfth number-one single." -> remove "further" since it's getting repetitive. Also put Giovanny Cqauias' review in the second paragraph since the first one is too big.

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• Edward Keeble from Gigwise called "Roc Me Out a "vibrant track" and concluded that the co-production which was made by Rob Swire of Pendulum is "evident on all facets of it". -> remove "which was made" and replace "concluded" with stated or something.
• Tuyet Nguyen of The A.V. Club criticized the song and described it as "almost laughable". -> change "and described" to "by describing"

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• However, he further explained that "Rihanna is a performer, not a songwriter. What she sings is less relevant than what she sells: a provocation that is enough to seem empowering, but not so radical that it’s alienating. -> could you paraphrase this? :)

• Sorry but I will need some help here. The quoted sentence is actual alienating xD. That's why I didn't paraphrase it. — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• Nvm I fixed it. Till I Go Home (talk) 06:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

• In a review of the album, Maz Halima from Flavour Magazine negatively reviewed "Roc Me Out" stating that when she heard it, she was "a bit p*ssed off" because of its similar sound to Rihanna's single "Rude Boy". -> Maz Halima from Flavour Magazine was unfavorable of the song in her album review of Talk That Talk, stating that when she heard it, she was "a bit p*ssed off" because of its similar sound to Rihanna's single "Rude Boy".

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Track listing

• Looks fine.

Credits and personnel

• Fine.

Charts

• "due to digital downloads" -> put a comma after this

•  Done — Tomica (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

References

• There is inconsistency with Publisher (.....) and Publisher. ...... Look at reference #5 and then #9 for example.

• That's not inconsistency. There are two types for citing references {{cite web}} and {{cite news}}. Some sources are published like a newspapers or magazines, so when you use the cite news template, automatically the publisher is put in brackets. It's different with the cite web one. You can see it in every article even in Featured articles like "Rehab" or "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)".

Overall

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• You have 7 days to fix the problems :) Till I Go Home (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC)