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Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Objective discussion should be added as this is likely not a premeditated attack, but a senseless gun violence incident. There is no mention in the article of the fact that the gathering had coalesced from multiple block parties, and there were multiple armed people at the party.

According to Wikipedia,

The United States’ Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition and defines a "public mass shooting" as an event where someone selects four or more people and shoots them with firearms in an indiscriminate manner, echoing the FBI's definition of the term "mass murder", but adding the indiscriminate factor.

At this point in time with the available facts, it's difficult to discern the difference between escalation of a drunken argument, and the sort of behavior that is imagined when one reads the term "mass shooting." The claim of "largest mass shooting in Rochester's history" may even be marginalizing events such as Sandy Hook and Parkland. I don't think this article is heading in the proper direction.2604:6000:6605:6900:49DB:7631:57BC:CE80 (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Three to four shooters shot more than 40 bullets in a pretty indiscriminate manner (most of the victims were not part of the argument leading to this). Source predominately use mass shooting here. Pikavoom (talk) 07:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

This should be merged...

Latest comment: 3 years ago7 comments7 people in discussion

There is no consensus for the proposed merge. While the proposer stated that the event was not extraordinary and there was no international coverage, both these claims were challenged by opposers. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 14:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

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I see no WP:LASTING coverage here for this particular event nor do I see any international coverage. Looking at List of mass shootings in the United States in 2020 this event appears to have the same scope as the mass shooting in Kansas City, Missouri on January 19, 2020. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I agree in general. The only argument I can see for it being notable enough is it being the 4th largest mass shooting in 2020. https://13wham.com/news/local/rochester-shooting-marks-fourth-largest-shooting-in-united-states-in-2020 Ottoshade (talk) 01:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support. Two deaths and other mainly non-serious wounds does not make a notable article. WWGB (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oppose - This does seem to be a unique event in the history of Rochester, New York. In the words of the acting police chief, 16 victims in total is unheard of over there. Love of Corey (talk) 04:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. Very much covered in international news (like BBC, Reuters, Guardian via Associated Press. Also in Spanish: BBC, El Mundo, French: [1][2], German: [3][4]), the largest mass shooting in Rochester history, with sixteen people shot,[5] as well as one of the largest shootings in the entire US in 2020.[6] With three to four shooters on the loose and an on-going investigation this is certain to be the subject of further attention. Pikavoom (talk) 07:17, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oppose - internationally reported, large number of victims & ongoing because suspects are still at large. Jim Michael (talk) 09:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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