Talk:Rock music of Canada/GA1

GA Review

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   Not bad written, but, this article needs a copy-edit [for proofreading]. The introduction of this article need to be rewritten, as the current text does not summarize the article adequately.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

   B. MoS compliance:

   Strictly not.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   I put a tag in the article to help on how to and when add sources.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   One of the external links is not being used, is thecanadianencyclopedia.com. Extremely useful as I could read in some articles about Canadian rock, see "Rock ‘n’ roll and rock music, Anglo-Canadian", "Rock Music in Quebec and French Canada", "Canadian Rock Music Explodes", allmusic.com, in books...--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

   C. No original research:

   Maybe, considering the lack of [reliable] sources in some sections.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   I think not.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

   B. Focused:

   I removed those mini biographies, it seemed more a list of major Canadian rock artists than the history of Canadian rock. [in short, totally off-topic]--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

   Appears to be okay.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

   No images so far.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   I will put the article on hold during seven days for the GA nominator fix the problems.--Cannibaloki 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

   The article contains several non-reliable sources, and references that don't support the statements. The article also is confusing in some sections, and contains an excess of information about charts and awards.--Cannibaloki 17:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Sources

What makes the following reliable sources?

History of rock and roll in Canada

• ref. 18, http://www.history-of-rock.com/indx.html Reword and use this book as source.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
• The World War II era bandleader, Guy Lombardo, and his brother are believed to have sold an estimated 200 million phonograph records during their lifetime. The source states, "Between 1927 and 1954, Lombardo & His Royal Canadians sold well over 100 million records on a variety of labels, including Columbia, Brunswick, Decca, and RCA Victor; it's estimated that his total worldwide record sales ranged between 100 and 300 million copies." You should reword and find a better source.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
• ref. 21 leads me to nowhere.
• ref. 27, http://www.hoyhoy.com/dawn_of_rock.htm This website is using (indicating) Wikipedia as a source, and you are reusing this? See WP:CIRCULAR.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
• ref. 29, http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/506004/rock This is a terciary source and should be replaced by a secondary [1], [2]. See WP:PSTS.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
• ref. 30, http://indierockmemories.com/PlayingCanadian.html
• ref. 31, http://globaldogproductions.info/
• ref. 32, http://www.doowophof.com/done/groups1.htm
• ref. 37, http://www.silver-dragon-records.com/history_of_rock_and_roll.htm
• ref. 38, http://www.canadianbands.com/bios_1.html

 Doing...--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Since GA review

"ref. 18, http://www.history-of-rock.com/indx.html Reword and use this book as source.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)"

DONE which first started publishing Jukebox charts in 1936. Popular Music in America By Michael Campbell. http://books.google.com/books?id=nIZSM3zxNUEC&lpg=PT149&dq=billboard%20chart%201936&client=firefox-a&pg=PT149#v=onepage&q=billboard%20chart%201936&f=false. ISBN 0-495-50530-7

"The World War II era bandleader, Guy Lombardo, and his brother are believed to have sold an estimated 200 million phonograph records during their lifetime. The source states, "Between 1927 and 1954, Lombardo & His Royal Canadians sold well over 100 million records on a variety of labels, including Columbia, Brunswick, Decca, and RCA Victor; it's estimated that his total worldwide record sales ranged between 100 and 300 million copies." You should reword and find a better source.--Cannibaloki 06:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)"

DONE with "Encyclopaedia Britannica"=http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/346723/Guy-Lombardo

ref. 21 leads me to nowhere.

REMOVED

"ref. 29, http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/506004/rock This is a terciary source and should be replaced by a secondary"

DONE = cite book |title=Music USA By Richie Unterberger, Samb Hicks, Jennifer Dempsey |url=http://books.google.com/books?id=uwtAx1xP9BMC&lpg=PA282&dq=rock%20and%20roll%20alan%20freed&as_brr=3&client=firefox-a&pg=PA282#v=onepage&q=&f=false}}ISBN 185828421X AND = American Popular Music: The age of rock By Timothy E. Scheurer. http://books.google.com/books?id=rBjdP_rGpacC&lpg=PA63&dq=rock%20and%20roll%20alan%20freed&as_brr=3&client=firefox-a&pg=PA71#v=onepage&q=&f=false. ISBN 978-0-87972-467-2

ref. 30

Is Based on a lecture given to CT 325--"Canadian Pop Culture," Wilfred Laurier University, Brantford Campus, November, 2007 and should stay.

ref. 31

Proper link added =http://www.globaldogproductions.info/a/apex-ca-76000-series.html

ref. 32

REPLACED WITH = Doo-Wopp Hall Of Fame Of America® =http://www.harveyrobbins.net/id2.htm

ref. 37

REMOVED174.115.165.184 (talk) 16:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.115.165.184 (talk)