Talk:Rocky Raccoon
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This article states that Rocky Raccoon dies as though it's a fact. Does any one else see a problem with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.0.254 (talk) 06:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
instead of a summery that is basically the lyrics rewritten, why not just have the lyrics?
- I believe that would be a copyright violation. Uvaduck 19:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Is there a specific Dylan song or ballad that people have in mind that Rocky Raccoon could be parodying? If so, it should be named. If not, it should be reworded to, "A parody of Bob Dylan's music" or something of the sort rather than implying that it could be a parody of a single song. If there's no source or elaboration, Bob Dylan shouldn't even be mentioned. Wikipedia isn't for speculation. (Mschonert 19:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC))
- Here's a supporting link: http://www.morethings.com/music/beatles/rockyraccoon.html
- "Paul McCartney wrote an affectionate parody of Dylan's newest classic album, John Wesley Harding. 'Rocky Raccoon' is an affectionate spoof of the man's perhaps sometimes self-important pseudo-Western narratives such as 'The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest'"
- The linked page elaborates quite convincingly on the topic. Maybe this link should be listed on the bottom?
- --134.102.204.196 11:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- That link is unsourced original research. IrishGuy talk 00:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
About the Catholig Church?
editAn old guy at work named Paul says he believes this song is related to a statement made by one of the Beatles that they were "bigger than Jesus", which caused the Vatican to verbally slap them down with their own statements. He says Rockey is the Beatle and Dan is the Catholic church. Anyone else ever hear this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.148.165.45 (talk) 01:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Raccoon or Racoon?
editOn 3 Sep 2007, an anonymous editor changed the name that appears in the lead sentence and commented in the edit summary that "racoon" is the proper UK spelling. I can't comment on that: I don't know how the word is spelled in the UK. I do know that (1) the USA album has "Raccoon", (2) the USA CD has "Raccoon", and (3) the discography by Lewisohn in Complete Recording Sessions has "Raccoon". Together, that indicates to me that the proper title is "Rocky Raccoon" and so I have reverted the edit. John Cardinal 01:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Also, I just checked and BMI has the song as "Rocky Raccoon" and does not have it as "Rocky Racoon". John Cardinal 01:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:The White Album.jpg
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Punched in the eye?
editThe article says Rocky was 'punched in the eye', there is no mention of this in the song, only a metaphor about his despair 'Rocky was hit in the eye'. In the context of the song I'm sure most folks would agree that he wasn't literally hit by Dan. Before you yell at me just read the lyrics to the song, it's well before any reference to the showdown. Until someone confirms that it means signs of a fight between Rocky and Dan I think we can safely assume that it isn't. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.191.35 (talk) 12:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The offending line is as follows
Rocky is punched in the eye at the beginning of the song, and much more seriously injured at the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.191.35 (talk) 21:06, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not exactly self-evident how 'Rocky was hit in the eye' can be a metaphor about his despair. --Sarabseth (talk) 22:11, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Sequel
editThere is a "sequel" to Rocky Raccoon, where the subsequent fates of Rocky, Nancy, Dan, and Rocky's dad Brad are expounded on ("Rocky Raccoon: The Continuing Story" by Richard Costa and David Dubowski):[1]70.27.147.134 (talk) 17:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Rocky Raccoon = Rocket Raccoon?
editWas the song inspired by the Marvel character or vice versa?74.100.47.237 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
This rather minor fact is now mentioned twice in the article, is this necessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.42.176.187 (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Beatles "The/the" Issue Mediation Input Request
editPlease note that request for input by email was made on the talk page, *not* on the page mentioned above. Email must be submitted to be considered as your input to this matter. 99.251.125.65 (talk) 12:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- "Mentioned above"? --Sarabseth (talk) 17:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Gideon checked out
editCould someone explain how "Gideon checked out/but he left it no doubt/to help with good Rocky's revival" becomes "takes it as a sign from God on his deathbed"? This statement is unsourced, is far from self-evident, and smacks of original research. I intend to remove it, unless there is some justification forthcoming. Thanks. --Daveler16 (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I agree. I think, if anything, it's a sign that Gideon's Bible is "leaving the room" because Rocky needs some alcohol to help with his recovery. Please do remove it! Bquinnoz (talk) 15:21, 13 December 2018 (UTC)