Talk:Rod Parsley
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Paul Cameron connection
editMention should be made of the use by Parsley of Paul Cameron's thoroughly discredited "research" on homosexuality. Parsley recites Cameron's figures at every opportunity and the continued use of such numbers speaks volumes about his methodology and his character.
- Do you happen to have any links about this, I watch Parsley so infrequently, I don't even remember him saying a word about homosexuality heh. (Though i'd gather Parsley would have plenty to say). Homestarmy 00:19, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- There are any number of sources, but I don't know which would meet NPOV standards. The Southern Poverty Law Center had an article on Cameron that mentions Parsley citing his bogus statistics. Incidentally, I have actually seen several different episodes of Parsley's show where he cites said statistics, once I believe he was doing so (disturbingly) while wearing camouflaged fatigues; playing soldier I guess. Why I watch, I don't know. Masochism, perhaps? Anyway, here's the link to the SPLC report on Cameron: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=996
- Hmm, I really think that source is a problem, because even though it makes the claim and is probably notable as a references, with something as controversial as this, that article doesn't try to really cite anything contradicting Parsley's claims, it just, ironically, expounds its own brand of facts :/. While it does seem thorough, I think its a bit risky in terms of WP:BLP. Homestarmy 22:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem with that assessment, but they aren't Parsley's claims, per se, but Cameron's. As such they have been roundly criticized: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron.html
- The above link is a starting point into Cameron's methodology and "research". As for Parsley, my original intent was merely to suggest that his connection to Paul Cameron be noted with a convenient link to the wikipedia page on Cameron provided. I don't have the desire to edit the article myself to reflect that, I just find the guy disturbing and had a hope that someone would, in the future and within a NPOV framework, delineate more of Pastor Rod's beliefs. Thanks for your time and advice.
- Hmm, I really think that source is a problem, because even though it makes the claim and is probably notable as a references, with something as controversial as this, that article doesn't try to really cite anything contradicting Parsley's claims, it just, ironically, expounds its own brand of facts :/. While it does seem thorough, I think its a bit risky in terms of WP:BLP. Homestarmy 22:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- There are any number of sources, but I don't know which would meet NPOV standards. The Southern Poverty Law Center had an article on Cameron that mentions Parsley citing his bogus statistics. Incidentally, I have actually seen several different episodes of Parsley's show where he cites said statistics, once I believe he was doing so (disturbingly) while wearing camouflaged fatigues; playing soldier I guess. Why I watch, I don't know. Masochism, perhaps? Anyway, here's the link to the SPLC report on Cameron: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=996
Parsley's connection to shady "alternative" health products
editSo I just saw Parsley on one of Springfield, MO's three Jesus-channels, in an infomercial with some sketchy homeopath selling an "audio cookbook" for around US$90. It's called "Eat, Drink, and be Healthy" or something, and they're yammering about "body toxins" or some other psuedoscientific nonsense. I know that lots of televangelists are in on these seedy snake-oil operations, and I'm wondering whether Parsley's involvement in these sorts of rackets is WP-worthy. The "Doctor" goes by "Broer" or something. I didn't quite catch the name, but they're telling folks that tap water will kill them. This is even worse than Pat Robertson's magical energy shake. Anyone know anything? MosKillinest 00:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Dr. Ted Broer. 208.27.125.252 17:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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Tithing
edit"Parsley encourages a variation on the Biblical concept called tithing. Though tithing is taught by many pastors, critics say the view held by Parsley is a variation of the controversial Word of Faith theology commonly embraced among Pentecostal and Charismatics.[2]" What does this mean? What is the variation? Without describing it, this is useless.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.7.127.192 (talk • contribs)
- Probably whatever the given reference says it means, I doubt that his particular messages on tithing fit into a particular category, (Many of these charismatic types have quite unique preaching styles) I don't understand how this is useless, it gives the reader information to the effect that critics of Parsley's messages on tithing consider there to be a relation to Word of Faith theology in his message, which is indeed a controversial and notable topic concerning modern evangelicalism. Homestarmy 00:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Eradicate Islam
edithttp://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=47232§ionid=3510203 - says that --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
About Columbus and America:
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.38.141 (talk) 16:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Bizarre language, NPOV
editI've changed the first sentence of the "Political Activism" section: "After years of selective involvement in moral issues in Washington, D.C., Parsley discerned a call to become more involved as he witnessed the signing of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003." It strikes me that in an encyclopedia, people don't "discern calls"; if Jesus and Joan of Arc didn't, I don't think Parsley did either. I'm also giving the article an NPOV flag. Given that Parsley has been in the news lately, I think someone needs to spend some serious time making the tone a little less evangelical. Daniel P. Shannon (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- I couldn't agree more. I don't know how that snuck into the article. Interwebs (talk) 22:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Political Stance on Social Issues
editThe main article says that Parsley "has tended to side with more liberal organizations on issues of social justice, such as poverty, racism, women's rights, human trafficking, pornography and prison re-entry" yet there is no frame of reference for this. What is the universal stance of "liberal" organizations? Is this an opinion? Should it be removed? Rkpuffate (talk) 16:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- I removed it. It's cited to him (and I couldn't see that the cite even backed the whole claim), which won't do, we'd need a reliable independent source. Dougweller (talk) 20:56, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
TBN - Trinity Broadcasting Network
editThe sentence I am referencing is in the opening paragraph: "His television program, Breakthrough with Rod Parsley, airs daily on the Daystar TV Network, the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and The Word Network."
I've watched that network - TBN - intermittently for more than 8 years. I don't believe Rod Parsley has been on that network for several years. I have looked through their schedule looking for Parsley's show; I don't find it. I've also searched TBN.org and found nothing. I do know he was a "celebrated" pastor on that network at one time.
I can't speak for Daystar or The Word. I don't watch either network.
5eNzzz (talk) 18:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC) 5eNzzz