Talk:Rodriguez, Rizal

Government

I added this to this stubl to expand it. The reader must know that the current government is run by the incumbent mayor: Rodriguez is currently governed by embattled town acting Vce-Mayor Jonas Cruz, amid the Philippine Court of Appeals' Fourth Division May 22, 2008 judgment effectively reinstating suspended incumbent Mayor Pedro Cuerpo..gmanews.tv, Rizal govt fails to get TRO to stop reinstatement of mayor --Florentino floro (talk) 07:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox

Can somebody fix the infobox? Jomanila (talk) 14:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed it but still's awry. Need more time. Hope someone's able to fix it. Jordz (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Found it, the main infobox template has been tinkered by an anon. It is now OK, but the template still got errors in the coords. See Template:Infobox Philippine municipality. Jordz (talk) 17:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

TO: Mayor cecilio c. hernandez

sir, total kayo nman po ang bagong mayor jan pakiayos po ng mga pulis mo karamihan sa mga pulis jan mga gago sila, tarantado pamangkin ko si glen hilario pinagbintangan hold uper binogbog na kinuha pa ang kita nya sa pamasada hindi nman pala si glen ang nang hold up npagkamalan lang.di magawa ng pamangkin ko na si glen magsumbong baka pag initan ng mga pulis jan.
sir, 2lungan nyo po sya malaki din nman ang natulong ng mga asawa sa inyo nung butohan naghirap po sila para lang po kau manalo.
           maraming salamat po sir sana po bigyan nyo ng aksyon agad bago mangyari sa iba ang nangyari sa pamangkin ko si glen hilario na taga san jose isa lang syang tricycle driver. wait ko po ang response nyo.godbless and congrats!mabuhay kayo!wag nyo pong ipagwalang bahala ito.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.237.196 (talk) 13:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC) 

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Excessive business listing

The business listing is removed because WP is not a directory, see WP:NOTDIRECTORY. It would be much better to add a section on the economy that include a description of livelihood and various business sectors. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 15:06, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 24 July 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus. See no general agreement below to make this title change at the present time. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their arguments and try again in a few months to garner consensus for this rename. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there  11:26, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

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Rodriguez, Rizal → Montalban, Rizal – As per WP:COMMONNAME. The place has always been commonly called as Montalban. Here's a news article on a how Montalban wants to revert to its old name officially (Note the absence of Rodriguez in the headline.) We don't have to wait for an official reversion of the towns name. Czech Republic is still not Czechia or Greece is not the Hellenic Republic. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:17, 24 July 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

 Disagree I think it should stay as is for consistency given that articles other than the one you mentioned still refer to the town as Rodriguez, Rizal.Markoolio97 (talk) 07:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Some news articles may solely use "Rodriguez" to refer to the town for the sake of being "official". But the source I mentioned gives multiple examples of common usage of "Montalban" over Rodriguez such as in maps, names of local organizations. Other examples include GMA News, Spin.ph, Philippine Statistic Authority. It is argued that Montalban is often used alongside with Rodriguez to avoid confusion of people unaware of its lesser common official name.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Citing your reference from the Philippine Statistics Authority, Rodriguez is being used as the main identifier for the town with Montalban being the alternative given to avoid confusion of people unaware of its lesser common official name. With regards to the request for renaming the article, I think the redirection of Montalban, Rizal to Rodriguez, Rizal is already sufficient and renaming the article would be an option if it would interfere with the consistency of materials, say a bill to rename the town was passed. Markoolio97 (talk) 01:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

• Comment The family of Eulogio Rodriguez for which the municipality was renamed after has got to be the most traditional of all Filipino politicians (read: TRAPO) and what would be referred to these days as EPAL politician, for taking the name of one of the more famous municipalities in the province with its equally famous Montalban gorge and replacing it with their family name. And it didn't end there. They also took at least two major roads in Manila and named it E. Rodriguez, the España Boulevard Extension in New Manila and the C-5 segment in Pasig. Im surprised they didnt name the municipality E. Rodriguez and settled with just Rodriguez. Having said that, there is already a bill (House Bill 337) passed in the House of Representatives by Rizal 2nd District Rep. Juan Fidel Felipe Nograles last July 22nd, 2019 to try to restore the old historic and famous name of the municipality of Montalban. I believe it would be best to just wait it out as our Article Titles for Philippine Local Government Units follow their official names here, if you havent noticed.--RioHondo (talk) 15:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Thans for the trivia about the official name. I reviewed MOS:PHIL and nothing is said about automatic preference for the official name for municipalities. If there was a consensus elsewhere, I believe it should also be mentioned in MOS:PHIL.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 23:43, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure there is official consensus really, but this is more an implied understanding given Wikipedia's preference for complete official names of Philippine local government units, like President Manuel A. Roxas, Zamboanga del Norte, President Carlos P. Garcia, Bohol, Vincenzo A. Sagun, Zamboanga del Sur, Enrique B. Magalona, Negros Occidental, Braulio E. Dujali, Davao del Norte, Remedios T. Romualdez, Agusan del Norte, Pio V. Corpuz, Masbate, Sergio Osmeña Sr., Zamboanga del Norte, Senator Ninoy Aquino, Sultan Kudarat, Datu Blah T. Sinsuat, Maguindanao, etc etc. I doubt anyone in the Philippines really calls any of those municipalities by their long official names, and even their middle initials? If WP:COMMONNAME is to be followed strictly for LGUs, those articles would have long been at Roxas, Zamboanga del Norte, Garcia, Bohol or President Garcia, Bohol, Magalona, Negros Occidental, etc etc. Do Filipinos really remember those Filipino politicians' middle initials? And call places by their really long archaic names? But this official naming practice is only for municipalities, cities and provinces. Regions of the Philippines mostly follow common names, and not Region I, Region II, Region IV-B, Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, etc.--RioHondo (talk) 07:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, those town names should comply with WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:CONCISE too, I believe these towns names should be moved too, though it would be easier to reason their move due to not being that different from the official name unlike Rodriguez's (Montalban). I'm implying why the region's names where not "Region I", "Region II" is also because of WP:COMMONNAME and for convenience reasons.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:51, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I support your reasoning too. But as this proposition covers the entire project and affects the nomenclature of all Philippine LGUs, a consensus among the active contributors must be arrived at first, and/or these changes must be instituted at MOS:PHIL before we can mass nominate them to follow their common names and other general WP guidelines like Concise and Precise. The case of Montalban is actually similar to Bailen, Cavite, whose old name is still more commonly used by the locals. We would still need everyone's inputs though before moving these articles en masse.--RioHondo (talk) 09:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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