Talk:Rollright Stones

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The lat/long coordinates given are some way out. According to the Google satellite image, the stones are some 700m NE of the position given, but I don't know how to correct this.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, done. Wikityke (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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to correct position and include scale Wikityke (talk) 23:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Could someone correct the SP2930 grid reference (in the coords and in the text) ? Wikityke (talk) 12:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

As can be clearly seen on the Google Satellite image, the co-ordinatres given are for The King's Men. The Whispering Knights are some 350m off to the west, across the field and The King's Srone is in the field on the other side of the road. The Grid Ref in the text is still wrong, but at least it shows the right field for the two main groups. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyright of Packer photographs

The page contains a gallery of "The Rollright Stones in 1919" containing a series of pictures taken by Chipping Norton photographer Frank Packer. These images have been uploaded to Wiki Commons by "The Locster" where they are identified as his "own work". This is very unlikely to be true for pictures taken in 1919 and in fact as I have said these pictures were taken by Frank Packer. Can anyone expand on the true copyright position? If the Packer pictures are genuinely out of copyright then there are a lot of other Oxfordshire articles that would benefit from their use. The ownership of surviving Packer negatives is split between Oxfordshire County Council and Chipping Norton Museum, however many other images exist as old postcards where the negative has not survived. Bruern Crossing (talk) 08:47, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I can't find a firm date for Packer's death, but circa 1970 is mentioned. In my opinion, they cannot be assumed to be out of copyright, and should not be hosted on Commons. BabelStone (talk) 12:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Now nominated for deletion. BabelStone (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Gorge

From the lead:

"Andrew Breeze has proposed that the name Rollright is from the Brittonic phrase *rodland rïx 'wheel enclosure groove', where *rïx 'groove' refers to the gorge near Great Rollright and *rodland 'wheel enclosure' refers to the King's Men circle."

(My emphasis.) The original text from the cited paper is:

"Rollright in Oxfordshire is made up of the Brittonic phrase *rodland rïx, where *rodland ‘wheel enclosure’ refers to the circular megalithic monument the Rollright Stones and *rïx ‘groove’ to the unusually-shaped narrow gorge by which Great Rollright village stands."

There's no recognisable "gorge" near Great Rollright (it's not a rocky area, the Stones notwithstanding) so I've changed this to "narrow valley". But there are several valleys this could refer to, so I'm not sure what to do about that.

Also, it's unclear (to a non-specialist) what, if anything, the asterisks mean. I'm tempted to remove them, but I don't know if they're significant. Dave.Dunford (talk) 16:23, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dave.Dunford. Thanks for this. I'm not familiar with the area so didn't know about the lack of gorge. The asterisks are a convention in historical linguistics to mark reconstructed forms which are unattested in written sources. The Brittonic forms could probably be moved to a footnote or the whole thing transferred to an 'Etymology' section. C1614 (talk) 11:17, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks – funnily enough I've come across the asterisk notation elsewhere since leaving my comment. I might look up an explanation and add a footnote, if I get round to it. I still don't know what to do about the alleged "gorge"; I suspect it's Danes Bottom, which is a steep-sided valley but not a gorge. If so, my wording is OK. Dave.Dunford (talk) 12:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)