Talk:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Eddaido in topic Disappearing photos

12 feet wide seems unlikely

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Is there a typo or mistake in the dimensions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.83.148 (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

It's less than 2 meters wide or about 6 feet wide. B.I.G. but not impossibly so, I think. (12 feet would be 144 inches.) Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Proposed revision of the 18 car table

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When viewed on a tablet, the 18 car table is too wide, going beyond the width of the article. It might help if the images were moved into the cell with the commentary and the image column were removed. I have attempted to do this below; comments on this version are invited. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Chassis First owner/user Coachbuilder Type of coachwork Coachwork number/design Original colour Upholstery Delivery date
4AF2 HRH The Princess Elizabeth, The Duchess of Edinburgh H. J. Mulliner Limousine 7-seater 5034 / 7162 First Valentine green with a red stripe down either side; repainted claret and black in 1952 Front: blue leather, later redone in darl blue cloth. Rear: grey cloth 6 July 1950
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF2.jpg Mascot of Saint George and dragon, designed by artist Edward Seago, it is made of silver and can be transferred from car to car—whichever the Queen is riding in. Fitted with a specially modified driver's seat in case the Duke of Edinburgh wished to drive himself. It is fitted with a Lion as the mascot when used in Scotland

On April 10, 1952, the Queen was driven in this car to her first royal engagement—the presentation of Maundy Money at the Westminster Abbey. It carried the Queen to the opening of the British parliament in 1954.[1] Fitted with an automatic gearbox in 1955.

4AF4 Rolls-Royce Park Ward Pick-up truck ~ Grey ~ 1 October 1950
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF4.jpg Experimental truck used for the factory. Dismantled in 1963.
4AF6 HM Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran H. J. Mulliner Cabriolet 5077 / 7205 Blue silver White 3 December 1951
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF6.jpg According to Martin Bennett's book "Rolls-Royce & Bentley: The Crewe Years" (3rd edition, 2011), chassis 4AF6, a 2-door convertible, was returned to Rolls-Royce: The third PIV built, and the second delivered to a customer, was 4AF6 for the Shah of Iran. The coachwork was again by H.J. Mulliner, but the huge drophead coupe body, which was finished in a light metallic blue with white leather upholstery, was by no means characteristic of this coachbuilder. It was the only Phantom IV to have built-in Silver Dawn type headlamps. The car was returned to Rolls-Royce Ltd in 1959, it is believed because it had proved insufficiently stiff, flexing severely on Iranian roads. The outcome was that the company scrapped it, though the body survives on a Phantom III chassis, which perhaps suggests that the fault lay with the chassis. The car made its way to the United States in 1982, apparently from Switzerland,[2] still with its metallic blue paint. Recent photos of it (2000s)[3] exist online, but its current whereabouts are unknown.
4AF8 HH Abdullah III Al-Salim Al-Sabah, Hakim of Kuwait H. J. Mulliner Limousine 6 light saloon 5153 / 7206 Beige and royal midnight blue Biscuit July 1951
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF8.jpg
4AF10 HRH The Prince Henry, The Duke of Gloucester Hooper Limousine 9663 / 8292 Black Fawn 1 September 1951
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF10.jpg According to Philip C. Brook's article "Phantoms in a Postwar World": "(...) The car was very imposing. It was also huge, and the late HRH Prince William of Gloucester told me that the family sold the car because it was too big. Delivered in 1951, it was sold in October 1960 (...)." It was later featured in the 1966 films Arabesque[4] and Fumo di Londra (Smoke over London).
4AF12 Ernest Hives, director of RR, then sold to HRH The Princess Marina, The Duchess of Kent Hooper Limousine 7-seater 9719 / 8307 Blue, later repainted black Beige 1 July 1951
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF12.jpg According to Martin Bennett's book "Rolls-Royce & Bentley: The Crewe Years" (3rd edition, 2011), Ernest Hives is said to have used the car only infrequently, preferring his Bentley R Type B226WH. The car was built with a manual transmission but was converted to automatic before being sold to Princess Marina. In the collection of Ion Țiriac, Romania.
4AF14 Generalissimo Francisco Franco of Spain H. J. Mulliner Limousine 5-seater 5035 / 7181 Black West of England beige 13 June 1952
Armored.
4AF16 Generalissimo Francisco Franco of Spain H.J. Mulliner Limousine 7-seater 5036 / 7181 Black West of England beige 4 July 1952
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF16.jpg Armored. Used by H.M. King Felipe VI of Spain for his ceremonial progress from the Zarzuela Palace to Congress, Madrid, for his Coronation on 19 June 2014.
4AF18 Generalissimo Francisco Franco of Spain H. J. Mulliner Cabriolet 4945 / 7183 Black Green leather 28 March 1952
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF18.jpg Armored. Also used by H.M. King Felipe VI of Spain after his Coronation on 19 June 2014 for ceremonial procession from Congress to Royal Palace in Madrid.
4AF20 HH Aga Khan III Hooper Limousine sedanca de ville 9750 / 8293 Dark green with a sideline in light green; later repainted entirely red Red leather May 1952
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF20.jpg When R. R. sold the car to the Aga Khan they included a clause which said he could not sell the car. However after his death his widow sold it to the Mayfair-Lennox hotel (Missouri, USA), where it was used to pick up guests at the airport but due to the boot short capacity it was resold in 1962. The car was later repainted red. In August 2011, the car was offered for sale at the Gooding & Company auction held in Pebble Beach, California.[5] It was estimated to sell for $850,000-1,100,000. Bidding failed to satisfy the vehicle's reserve and it left the auction unsold. It is now in the collection of Ion Țiriac.
4AF22 HH The Prince Talal of Saudi Arabia Franay Cabriolet - / 7183 Cream and green; later repainted black Green leather June 1952
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4AF22.jpg The only Phantom IV with a French-made coachwork. This one was listed in their works description as a sedanca de ville, but a four-door cabriolet was erected on the chassis instead.[6]
4BP1 HM King Faisal II of Iraq Hooper Limousine 9890 / 8361 Black Red leather 26 March 1953
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4BP1.jpg Made for his coronation.
4BP3 HRH 'Abd al-Ilah, Prince Regent of Iraq Hooper Touring limousine 7-seater 9891 / 8370 Delivered all-black; later black over white, with black fenders,[7] and then finally the white segments painted dark blue. Light blue leather 26 March 1953
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4BP3.jpg Built for the coronation of his nephew, King Faisal II. Years later all the royal family members were assassinated in the 1958 coup d'état. At the time of the uprising, the car was at Hooper's in London for servicing, and it was eventually sold in the USA. Displayed at The Royal Automobile Museum, Amman, Jordan.
4BP5 HM Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom Hooper Landaulet 9941 / 8399 Claret and black Front: blue leather, rear: grey cloth 1 May 1954
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4BP5.jpg Rolls-Royce retained this car for the exclusive use of the British Royal Family. Finally in 1959 it was purchased by the Queen. This car was built to celebrate RR Golden Jubilee, 1904 - 1954. On permanent loan at the Sir Henry Royce Memorial Foundation, Paulerspury, U.K.
4BP7 HRH The Princess Margaret, The Countess of Snowdon H. J. Mulliner Limousine 7-seater 5686 / 7368 Black Beige cloth 16 July 1954
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4BP7.jpg Purchased by Princess Margaret, she chose Pegasus designed by Edward Seago and made (by Louis Lejeune Ltd., London) as her mascot. Fitted with an adjustable seat in case the Princess wished to drive herself. The car, still in its original black color and featuring its Pegasus hood ornament, was offered for sale by The Real Car Company of Bethesda, Gwynedd, North Wales[8] in 2008. No selling price was published but the company states that it sold for "somewhere around $750,000."
4CS2 HH Abdullah III Al-Salim Al-Sabah, Hakim of Kuwait H. J. Mulliner Limousine 6 light saloon 5724 / 7376 Two-tone green Olive green leather 1 February 1955
On display at the Nethercutt Collection, 15151 Bledsoe Street, Sylmar, CA 91342 (USA). The series C, to which belong only the last three P. IVs had a powered version of the engine with 197hp compared to 160hp of the rest. According to a plaque at the Nethercutt Collection, the car cost $25,000 when purchased new.
4CS4 HH Abdullah III Al-Salim Al-Sabah, Hakim of Kuwait H. J. Mulliner Limousine 5725 / 7376 Golden copper and silver Beige August 1955
  On display at Castillo Concejuelo in Torre Loizaga, Biscay, Spain.
4CS6 HM Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran Hooper Limousine 10177 / 8425 Black then repainted in bordeaux Grey leather October 1956
File:Rolls-Royce Phantom IV, 4CS6.jpg In 1977 the car was in London for "major repairs and refurbishing". After three years and a reported $25,000 worth of repairs, the car was still in the UK. There was a dispute over who owned the car; the ousted Shah or representatives of the Iranian Embassy who said it belonged to their country.[9] Finally the exiled Pahlavi family lost their claim to ownership in the British courts. Displayed at the National Car Museum of Iran.
  1. ^ Buckley, Martin (2004). "1 Pomp & circumstance". Cars of the Super Rich: The Opulent, the Original and the Outrageous. St. Paul, MN USA: Motorbooks International. p. 24. ISBN 0-7603-1953-7. Retrieved 2012-10-05. The Phantom IV was the royal family's official state limousine and carried the Queen to the opening of Parliament in 1954. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Trenk, Dick (2010-04-06). Bergsma, Joris; Booy, Rutger (eds.). "Comes with an armed guard". http://www.prewarcar.com/postwarclassic/. Amsterdam, The Netherlands: Pre-War Post-War Publishing. Archived from the original on 2010-06-21. Retrieved 2013-08-25. One chassis was rebodied with a six seat convertible body for the Shah and because it had been at the Mulliner Park Ward body works during the overthrow, it survived. It was smuggled into Switzerland and kept hidden. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 2010-07-21 suggested (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |doi_brokendate= (help); External link in |website= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ http://www.flickr.com/photos/11040070@N07/4241174749/in/set-72157622995782389%7Ctitle=Rolls Royce Phantom IV 4AF6 at auto show
  4. ^ "Internet Movie Cars Database: 1951 Rolls-Royce Phantom IV Limousine Hooper [4AF10]". Imcdb.org. Retrieved 2012-10-05.
  5. ^ Info at conceptcarz.com
  6. ^ https://kr.pinterest.com/pin/360850988864808929/
  7. ^ http://www.rrab.com/nov03.htm
  8. ^ http://www.realcar.co.uk/cars_sold_2009.htm
  9. ^ New York Magazine: 17 March 1980. Books.google.es. 1980-03-17. Retrieved 2012-10-05.

Disappearing photos

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A bot removed most of the photos. What's going on??? --RThompson82 (talk) 22:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Copyfraud Eddaido (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2016 (UTC)Reply