Talk:Ronald Fogleman

NPOV dispute

The current section portrays Foglemans actions during the Bosnian War, in which the pilot Scott O'Grady was shut down, in overly positive words that suggest a biased viewpoint("accolades") and does not consider all facts. According to the rules of a NPOV dispute I marked it accordingly. More specifically, the article leaves out the information that Fogleman shared details of the pilot's transmissions with reporters when the pilot had not been rescued yet. It is a fact that Fogleman shared these views with reporters and thus enabled anyone at that time to arrive at their own conclusions, such as possible military actions to rescue Scott O'Grady.

Contrast this to the Scott O'Grady article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O%27Grady ), especially the text marked in bold:

"O'Grady radioed for help immediately but had to remain quiet with paramilitaries coming within feet of him; he used the radio following standard operating procedures as the U.S. Air Force had taught him so not to give away his position to unfriendly forces. On his 6th night on the ground he made radio contact, signalling his location using his radio's limited battery power. NATO planes conducting sorties in the Balkans had been picking up beeper snippets that they thought could be coming from O'Grady. This extremely sensitive information was inadvertently revealed by General Ronald Fogleman, the Air Force Chief of Staff, when the general told reporters attending a promotion ceremony that monitors had detected "intermittent" transmissions.[7] A NATO official was quoted as saying "I was dumbfounded he said that... I mean, why not just announce to the bad guys, 'We think he's alive and kicking, and we hope we find him before you do'?"[4]" Doskey412 (talk) 7:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Fogleman's Resignation

General Fogleman retired a year early because he felt that a subordinate in Arabia was unfairly blamed for US deaths in the Khobar Towers terrorist attack. There is surprisingly little public domain material, but here's the stub of a NY Times article.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70712FC3B5E0C7A8EDDAE0894DF494D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fM%2fMilitary%20Bases%20and%20Installations

Here is another view of the resignation with some quotes.--TGC55 (talk) 17:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

http://www.afa.org/magazine/dec2005/1205keeper.asp

Uniform Changes

General Fogleman was awesome. In addition to (temporarily) saving the dress uniform, he reverted the lame Aircrew Style Name Patch (ASNP) on the Battle Dress Uniform (BDU) back to the typical name and service cloth tapes. Under McPeak, the BDU was almost completely unadorned with patches, except for the ASNP.

131.191.220.64 (talk) 16:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Gen Fogleman's Age is Wrong

The current age posted is 110 years old. That is clearly wrong!199.46.198.232 (talk) 21:42, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Gen Fogleman's Reporter Gaffe

How on earth does this article fail to mention that he revealed that Scott O'Grady was alive and transmitting a signal in Bosnia to the world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.2.93 (talk) 19:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

-> I just added that information based on the Wikipedia Scott O'Grady article (which has all the infos) and the linked TIME Magazine article there. I also found it quite weird that this incident was not mentioned here. Feel free to improve the grammar, I'm not a native speaker so something might have slipped through. Doskey412 (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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