Talk:Room 13 (Wallace novel)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Buidhe in topic Requested move 26 December 2020

Requested move 26 December 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move, and put the dab at base. (non-admin closure) (t ยท c) buidhe 15:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply



Room 13 (novel) โ†’ Room 13 (Edgar Wallace novel) โ€“ The topic described under Room 13 is also a novel. ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿค๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿบ๐ช๐‘ค๐’†๐“‡๐Ÿท๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฅ๐Ÿœ๐“บ๐”ด๐•–๐–—๐Ÿฐ (๐—๐—ฎ๐˜ญ๐™ ) 10:47, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

@1234qwer1234qwer4: how is "most viewed" relevant? The guidelines state that an article must achieve a substantial majority of all meanings combined, i.e. 60%+ of all pages. But here when the two Room 13 films based on the 1924 Room 13 novel and the Black Flag song are included the children's book is not getting even half of reader attention. [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Room_13_(film)%7CRoom_13_(novel)%7CRoom_13%7CRoom_13_International%7CEverything_Went_Black include the Black Flag album with "Room 13" on it and every other Room 13 is dwarfed. This is classic WP:NOPRIMARY territory. @Crouch, Swale: @George Ho: do those page views suggest there's a long term encyclopaedic primary here? In ictu oculi (talk) 12:51, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes I would weakly support a no primary topic move, it depends how many people are looking for the song with this term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Looking at the monthly pageviews, this is still the case (pointwise at least). ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿค๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿบ๐ช๐‘ค๐’†๐“‡๐Ÿท๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฅ๐Ÿœ๐“บ๐”ด๐•–๐–—๐Ÿฐ (๐—๐—ฎ๐˜ญ๐™ ) 12:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Usually statistics indicate usage. In this case, I took out one album that isn't titled "Room 13". As I can indicate, "Room 13" is the most-visited page. However, that's just the most-visited page, especially this year. The stats can tell us which page(s) users visited, but long term encyclopaedic primary is not limited to statistics. Stats are not indicators of long-term historical significance, and stats can vary. BTW, I made some changes to the dabpage. George Ho (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Just for the record, the guideline does not state that "an article must achieve a substantial majority of all meanings combined, i.e. 60%+ of all pages." That's something pulled out of the air. The guideline says "more likely than all the other topics combined". Station1 (talk) 04:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Just for the record, you re-punctuated my sentence adding " " to make it appear that I was misquoting. I was explaining so that you could understand what the guideline said, learn and then follow in RM discussions. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
I quoted you verbatim. That is the purpose of quotation marks. What you said the guideline says is not what the guideline says. Station1 (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
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