Talk:Rosatom
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Advertising fears
editSomeone had noted this was like an advert in 2023 and it hadn't been edited much since so I changed a couple of sentences or so. If that's what they were getting at, they got what they want. If they were referring to the company as 'not needing the publicity of a Wikipedia entry' then I'm all for it, as I believe these Russian, sanctioned, organisations need to be completely overhauled and in some sense questions need to be asked as to why Wikipedia hosts this sort of thing including links to their websites which I basically cannot legally access due to the sanctioning (without breaking the law possibly). Users really don't need this political and legal minefield and Wikipedia needs to be more friendly and accessible. I liken some of it now to detailing events during the holocaust without actually acknowledging there was a holocaust - that's how bad it's got, it's a bad situation. To a great extent our governments are dealing with this stuff, the sanctioning is vast and we are at a war footing anyway. I can't travel to Moscow without a major step change in relations (then I could if I wanted, in theory) as I don't want the grief upon returning and I don't want to deal with them on their current set of terms when I'm over there. So I would like Wikipedia to be less underground, less about vast sections of pre-2022 stuff at the expense of a useful article about what is currently relevant and what reads well as an article. If a company has been sucked up by the Russian war machine and nobody will deal with it, then there isn't much relevance to hosting this site for historical posterity of no audience that gives a hoot and for political propaganda gain that just seeks to prop up the hysteria mill that has encouraged this ageing dictator to try to set his mark. You get the idea.--148.252.146.215 (talk) 02:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Correctness
edit"was established on January 29, 1992 as a successor of the Ministry of Nuclear Engineering and Industry of the USSR. " - This organisation are widely known in USSR/Russia as "Minsredmash" (Ministry of medium machine-building). In fact, it's a soviet nuclear brand. IMHO, this fact must be described in article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.200.8.139 (talk) 08:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Is this the same group as in The World Is Not Enough? Bayerischermann 03:32, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- I guess the organisation in the film was based on the real organisation. But don't expect to meet Christmas Jones in the real organisation. Andrewa (talk) 05:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Requested move
editA law adopted by the Russian parliament and signed by the Russian President transformed the status from Federal Agency to state owned company called Rosatom. Please change the Article's name to Rosatom. Superzohar 
Talk 13:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- If this is the only reason for the move proposal, then I'm afraid it's premature. We don't automatically follow every official name change. See Wikipedia:naming conventions. Andrewa (talk) 05:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- It is not only the change of official name, but also change of the legal status. It is not anymore state agency, but state corporation. For this reason the name including "federal agency" is incorrect. Beagel (talk) 07:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting... so you're saying that this should be an exception to the normal policy at WP:NC?
- There are some, but not many. It would probably be easier to argue that the common usage has changed to reflect the official and legal usage, if in fact this is the case. But to reiterate, we don't automatically follow official name changes, even those that reflect changes of legal status. Andrewa (talk) 00:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I've done some reading, and it appears to me that Rosatom is indeed now the common name in English. Andrewa (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Finances
editHas anyone been able to find information on this corporation's finances? Is it profitable? --76.170.19.29 (talk) 05:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, sure. But numbers in the article are crazy (900 trln $, really?? 9 times more than global GDP?) and incorrect. Current capitalization of Rosatom is somewhat 2 trln rubbles, which is approximately 30 bln $. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.130.180.130 (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Why the rename? Propose undo unless good explanation
editWhy was this article renamed "Rosatom (Russian state corporation)", seemingly corntrary to WP policy, when there was no disambiguation problem?
- WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used"
- WP:NAMINGCRITERIA: "Conciseness – The title is no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects."
- WP:NAMINGCRITERIA: "The title is sufficiently precise to unambiguously identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects."
Unless a policy based explanation of this rename is provided, I propose we undo the rename. Rwendland (talk) 18:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2018edit
The State Atomic Energy Corporation Rosatom, also known as ROSATOM, is a Russian public vertically-integrated company composed by more than 300 enterprises and organisations, with 250,000 employees.[1] ROSATOM is the only energy company to cover all the nuclear energy fields; including uranium exploration and mining, uranium conversion and enrichment, nuclear fuel fabrication, mechanical engineering, NPP design and construction, power generation, decommissioning of nuclear facilities, spent nuclear fuel and radioactive waste management. [2] The corporation is also working on new businesses concerning renewable energies, nuclear medicine, material studies, additive manufacturing, lasers, robotics, supercomputers, and others. [3] Despite it has more than 70 years of experience in the nuclear sector, the ROSATOM company was officially created on December 18th, 2007. The federal law number 317-FZ of December 1st, 2007 defines ROSATOM’s status, purposes and objectives, functions and powers.[4] Nowadays ROSATOM is considered a global actor on the world’s nuclear market. ROSATOM is the largest electricity producer in Russia, provided 203 TWh (that represents the 18,9% of the total production in the country) in 2017, and the 2nd globally for the nuclear power plants fleet. The company is the 1st in the world for the number of simultaneously implemented nuclear reactor construction, 41: 6 in Russia and 35 abroad; the 2nd in reserve of uranium and the 4th in annual uranium extraction.[5] [6][7] ROSATOM also operates the world’s only nuclear icebreaker fleet.[8] [9] The State Corporation is headquartered in Moscow and is headed by Alexey Likhachev.[10] ROSATOM states its mission is to maintain national interests in defense, nuclear safety and nuclear power by achieving global leadership in advanced technologies, competencies and innovations.[11] " CamillaVuillermoz (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2018 (UTC) References
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HistoryeditBorn as a ministry, the history of ROSATOM is closely linked with the development of the nuclear industry in Russia. [1] In 1950, the Government of the USSR adopted a resolution on using atomic energy for peaceful purposes. The main result of this implementation was the world’s first nuclear power plant (NPP) to produce electricity, the Russian Obninsk , completed in 1954. [2] In 1955, the Russian’s first fast-neutron reactor, BR-1 , was put into operation. [3] In November 20th, 1953 the first civilian nuclear icebreaker was built, and the lying took place three years later. [4] In 1964, was commissioned the first Russian pressurized water reactor of VVER type with a capacity of 210 MW, at Novovoronezh-1 NPP. [5] Russian production and evolution of nuclear energy was extraordinary quick and by the mid-1980s, however the accident of Chernobyl nuclear power plant (1986) hindered the development of domestic nuclear power, and in the 1990s Russia’s nuclear industry experienced a period of stagnation. [6] In January 1992, the Ministry of Atomic Energy (known as MINATOM) and Industry of the USSR was transformed into the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Atomic Energy, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. MINATOM’s context comprised several non-profit organisations, targeting the domestic electricity market. [7] On March 9th, 2004, the ministry became a Federal Agency on Atomic Energy. [8] In 2007, the ministry become a state corporation, called ROSATOM. The new organisation, still present, is inserted in a competitive market environment and its target is the global nuclear technology market.[9] CamillaVuillermoz (talk) 10:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC) References
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StructureeditROSATOM is a vertically-integrated company composed by more than 300 enterprises and organisations. The organizations sectors range throughout the nuclear industry. The enterprisesedit
[1] CamillaVuillermoz (talk) 10:56, 28 August 2018 (UTC) References Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2018edit
Improvement SystemseditWith the purpose to pursue the SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) and to be competitive on the global market, ROSATOM has pointed out several goals. ROSATOM sets three long-term strategic goals out to 2030:
Others are:
[1] In 2014, ROSATOM formulated six common corporate values: “One step ahead”, “Responsibility for the Result”, “Efficiency”, “One Team”, “Respect” and “Safety”. [2] CamillaVuillermoz (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2018 (UTC) References
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Recent semi-protected edit requests
editA new WP editor has made 10 edits to this talk page today, requesting semiprotected edits. The same editor was then able to make the requested edits, and apparently did so, which essentially rewrote the article.
This seems to go against the whole notion of semiprotected status, given that the software was tricked by 10 talk-page edits.
As an editor with next to no familiarity with this article's subject, I am not in a position to analyze these recent edits' contribution to WP. I hope that such extensive revisions can be reviewed by another qualified editor soon.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:01, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- @CamillaVuillermoz: To be perfectly honest, looking at the article as it existed yesterday and comparing it to the article as it exists now following your changes, the new version is much worse in my opinion. Your edits are all over the place, don't conform to Wikipedia's manual of style, and rely almost entirely on primary sources. It's starting to look like an advertisement. I'm trying to assume good faith here, but it looks for all the world to me like you're editing with a conflict of interest, if not editing as a paid contributor. Can you please explain what you're doing with this article? ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @ElHef:I am a student in Industrial engineering, I have done an analysis and a research on the nuclear energy market, for my studies. I had to choose a nuclear company and to study it accurately. Unfortunately, this is the first Wikipedia page I write, I have no experience. I did not try to edit with e conflict of interest or as a paid contributor, I just noticed the previous article contains lot of errors. If you can tell me what I can improve or modify, I will be delight to do it. Since my lack of experience, I look forward to any kind of suggestion.