Talk:Ross Coulthart

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Gråbergs Gråa Sång in topic Jason Colavito blog BRRD

New source

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[1] Please incorporate if you think you can. jps (talk) 22:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'd need to brush up on my Australian politics to follow it all with more than a glance. Hysterical cartoon... I might have to circle back and take a shot at pulling out some key info. Jjhake (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Apparently Coulthart has gotten some criticism in relation to Ben Roberts-Smith: ‘Odd’: TV journalist and ufologist’s secretive report about Ben Roberts-Smith. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wow. Messed up looking. "It is a very odd thing to ask an investigative journalist to go around doing fact finding for a lawyer." To have billionaire backers paying a "star" journalist "to go around doing fact finding for a lawyer" is indeed several layers of odd. Jjhake (talk) 18:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

UFOs

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There is now more information about UFOs than anything else. Jack Upland (talk) 05:07, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

It's not Wikipedia's fault UFOs have been his exclusive focus since 2018. Maybe he discusses things other than UFOs on Coast To Coast AM and Need To Know these days, but I doubt it. The Aussie papers are even satirizing his career as a 'UFO Truther' (see above). His advocacy of UFO conspiracy theory should be mentioned in the article lead. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:06, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

This article is on Reddit

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This page has gained the interest of UFO subreddit at here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/poktwjL9FF

Hopefully we won't see any vandalism or edit wars here. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 07:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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This article is written quite poorly (e.g. WP:PROSELINE), and suffers from both temporal and topic-matter imbalance. Skeptics will naturally want to over-emphasize kooky UFO aspects and criticism, while fans will naturally want downplay criticism and over-emphasize everything else. Both should be tempered by WP:NPOV and WP:RECENTISM. Wikipedia editors should take a broad, unbiased look at the totality of work published about Ross Coulthart, and structure the article focus proportionally. We should not be cherry-picking our favorite critics or sources or aspects to write about, nor disregard older sources merely beacause they may be out of memory or harder to find. Below are a subset of possible sources covering various aspects with which to possibly expand the article. --Animalparty! (talk) 23:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Sassoon, Joanna (3 April 2014). "The Lost Diggers , by Ross Coulthart". History of Photography. 38 (2): 208–210. doi:10.1080/03087298.2014.890416.
  • Grey, Reviewer: Jeffrey (21 November 2014). "Book reviews: Charles Bean's Gallipoli Illustrated; Charles Bean". The Sydney Morning Herald.
  • Stanley, Peter (June 2015). "Charles Bean [Book Review]". Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society. 101 (1): 93–95.
  • Leete, Peter (2016). "Charles Bean". LiNQ (Literature in North Queensland). 42: 125–126.
  • Conrad, Peter (29 May 2016). "The Lost Tommies by Ross Coulthart review – young martyrs to pointlessness". The Guardian.
  • Fielding, Marcus (December 2016). "Charles bean, if people really knew: One man's struggle to report the great war and tell the truth" (PDF). United Service. 67 (4). Royal United Services Institute of New South Wales: 33–35.
  • Goldschmidt, Pippa (November 5, 2021). "Stranger than fiction: The search for evidence of extraterrestrial sightings". The Times Literary Supplement.

The Jason Colavito blog currently used in the article arguably fails WP:BLPSPS. Better source would be better. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Some coverage of Coulhart in Journal of Transpersonal Psychology here [2], WP-library access or some such needed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Rewording/clarification needed on a sentence

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This sentence should be reworded to perhaps clarify that Ross stepped in to break up the fight, not engage in it. "In 2014, Coulthart worked as chief investigations reporter for Channel 7's Sunday Night news program but resigned after being involved in "a newsroom brawl"."

This is per that sentence's source article, which clearly states he broke it up, not joined in: "Coulthart stepped in to break up a physical fight between Sunday Night’s executive producer Mark Llewellyn and another producer last month." https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/investigative-journalist-ross-coulthart-quits-channel-7s-sunday-night-program-after-newsroom-punchup/news-story/76ce902420f8d761727368390f76ea47

Ross Coulthart himself said the same in the latest episode of NTK at 25 minutes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFvXyOiUiZ0 50.200.118.243 (talk) 08:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

"In 2014, Coulthart worked as chief investigations reporter for Channel 7's Sunday Night news program but resigned after intervening in "a newsroom brawl"." would work, and avoid detailing a bunch of non-notable gossip. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would not be opposed to that word change. Recommend changing it to include "intervening" for a more balanced take on what happened. 50.200.118.243 (talk) 06:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Jason Colavito blog BRRD

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"Author Jason Colavito reviewed Coulthart's book, saying it was "less a serious analysis and more of a book report on the last works of the leaders of the faith".[1]"

IMO this sentence should stay per WP:SPS (author seems reasonably "expert" in context), and WP:BLPSPS, since as written, it's not about Coulthart, it's about his book. Opinions, editors? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Colavito, Jason. "Review of "In Plain Sight" by Ross Coulthart". jasoncolavito.com. Jason Colavito. Retrieved 12 June 2023.

For clarity, when I commented on the blog in January (above), the article content was different, but I changed it then.[3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply