Talk:Round Here (disambiguation)

Requested move 9 December 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus (non-admin closure) Fuortu (talk) 14:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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• Round Here (disambiguation) → Round Here
• Round Here → Round Here (Counting Crows song)

– Statistics would say that the Counting Crows song is the most popular. However, almost half of users go to other pages, like the Florida Georgia Line song or George Michael. Also, the title itself is too vague to consider it the Counting Crow song. George Ho (talk) 11:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

• Support. Not an impressive margin of page views and the song doesn't appear that notable anyway. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 13:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. The nominator himself admits the Counting Crows' song gets a majority of page views -- more than all other topics combined -- which is the criteria for an article being the primary topic. Calidum ¤ 14:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect, Calidum. The primary topic is not defined by any criterion, such as usage. We the consensus decide what determines the primary topic. George Ho (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Don't be obtuse: "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." Calidum ¤ 20:48, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Usage aside, how clear is the title "Round Here", Calidum? George Ho (talk) 06:42, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, Calidum, would the strict interpretation violate WP:NOTBURO? The principle of the "primary topic" guideline is deciding whether the primary topic for the name exists and which the primary topic is (if exists). As I can see, "Round Here" looks like an unclear title (no need for sources saying that), and another statistics say that George Michaels is more popular than Florida Georgia Line, which is more popular than Counting Crows. Compare Special:WhatLinksHere/Round Here (Memphis Bleek song) with Special:WhatLinksHere/Round_Here. --George Ho (talk) 03:07, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose per Calidum. The nominator themselves seems to even provide rationale for keeping the current situation based on page views, and I agree with that. Steel1943 (talk) 21:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support. Discounting a recent spike the Counting Crows song only has 57% of the pageviews and the Florida Georgia Line song isn't far behind. Nohomersryan (talk) 22:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support a good example of why WP:PRIMARYTOPIC wasn't meant for media products with generic titles. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:19, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Calidum ¤ 13:35, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose per Calidum and Steel1943 and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. By the evidence, the County Crows song is sought substantially more than all other topics combined.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose per all the above. I've never heard of any of these songs, but all the evidence from page views and a simple Google search seems to point to the conclusion that the current set up, with the Counting Crows song as PTOPIC, is the correct one.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:08, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support — The evidence for Counting Crows being WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is rather mediocre — For example, half of viewers want other articles, so that's barely the first criteria satisfied, and with a margin so slim, one must assume that the Counting Crows song is getting a lot of misdirected hits. Also - it really doesn't have any special significance. The Florida Georgia Line song charted much better, for instance — it was a No. 1 country song and is double platinum. MelanieLamont (talk) 19:16, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. The low hits on the disambiguation page indicate that the Counting Crows song is not getting a lot of misdirected hits. Good evidence for primary topic. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
• Support I don't see evidence that any one of them is the primary topic. And the pageviews are not always reliable, the article at the primary title (without disambiguation) usually tends to receive more hits, so I would discount that. I also see on 26 December, the George Michael song received a lot more hits. I guess in this case, a disambiguation works well. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:43, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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