Talk:Roy Keane/GA1

GA Review

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GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Fail In my opinion there is a lot of work that needs doing here and as such I am failing this nomination. This is my first GA review, but I have experience as a viewer at FLC and have I have left comments and some rationales as to where I think this fails the criteria. This is a very rough overview of the problems and is by no means exhaustive.

1a

• The whole thing needs a copyedit/peer review
• A fair few one or two sentence paragraphs. This is a real structural problem in this article.
• The lowest point of their season came at Goodison Park, where they were beaten 7-1 by Everton, which Keane described as "one of the lowest points" of his career - repetition of lowest point is awkward
• Keane, however, was reluctant to join the post-tournament celebrations, later claiming that, as far as he was concerned, Ireland's World Cup was a disappointment - doesn't flow at all because it is full of, or could have less of, the little interjections, which in my opinion, are breaking up the flow. See what I mean.

1b

• Lacking ndashes in number/year ranges
• Inconsistent date formats DD Month YYYY & Month DD, YYYY
• Dates linked in Personal Life section
• Citation coming before punctuation instead of after.

2a

• A citation needed tag in the Sunderland section
• Should use citation templates.

2b

• Manchester Evening News user comments isn't reliable, neither is ManUtdZone.com

2c

• Couldn't find anything citing "None of Keane's team-mates voiced support for him during the meeting, although some supported him in private afterwards."
• a famous 1-0 victory , "famous" says who?
• easy 3-0 victory over Leeds, "easy"?
• Some argue that Sunderland's 2007-08 season in the Premier League was marred with bad luck - who is "some"

3b

• This is a very long article that I feel could be summarised better. Ramblings like "at the height of an extreme period of bad blood between United and Arsenal" don't help the cause.

4.

• Seems to be a slight bias towards Keane: e.g. "greatly assisted by a number of match-winning performances from Keane"

6

• A few more images would be nice, but I realise that the availability of free images is the limitation here.

I hope my comments are of some help. Best of luck for the future, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)