Talk:Royal London Hospital

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"the best narrative of the hospital is probably given by W. Somerset Maugham where he describes the institution as a place of misery where the male patients are predominantly cases of alcohol related diseases, the women are mostly cases of malnutrition, and the rest are unwanted pregnancies"

This may have been true in the 1920's or 30s, but certainly is not true of the hospital now.87.194.60.87 19:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

When the expansion is completed it will be one of the largest renal units in Europe (as opposed to the largest). It will still be some way smaller than the West London Renal and Transplant Centre —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malittle (talk • contribs) 21:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

fact

everything on joesphs body was deformed except for his genitals i just think its a cool fact ~~sammi~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.34.238 (talk) 04:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

The Barts and London NHS Trust

Barts and London NHS Trust has been expanded to include Mile End Hospital, Newham Hospital and Whipps Cross Hospital along with The Royal London, London Chest Hospital and St. Barts. I'm not sure if the great clinical outcomes are still as wonderful with the addition of those three. In particular, Whipps has been having major issues of late.

212.95.250.116 (talk) 12:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Size

Are there really 110 wards for just 675 beds? That suggests the average ward only has 6 beds in it; is that true? 82.19.152.29 (talk) 00:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Horrocks Openshaw/pathological museum

I have removed the following sentence from the section on the Museum and Archives:

"A former Curator of the Museum was the noted surgeon Thomas Horrocks Openshaw."

Openshaw was curator of the hospital's pathological museum (i.e. of medical specimens). This is quite different to the modern museum of the history of the hospital, which was established in something like its present form in the 1980s (I think). If somebody wants to do some more research on the pathological museum, the sentence can go back in. GrindtXX (talk) 09:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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Some proposed changes

The 'Museum and archives' section requires significant updates to reflect how the historic collections can be accessed since the former museum closed, as well as correct some incorrect information.

• References supporting change:

www.bartshealth.nhs.uk/barts-health-archives www.bartshealth.nhs.uk/rlhmuseum

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Museum and archives The Royal London had a museum which was located in the crypt of a 19th-century church. It reopened in 2002 after extensive refurbishment. The museum covered the history of the hospital since its foundation in 1740 and the wider history of medicine in the East End. It was a member of the London Museums of Health & Medicine. It included works of art, surgical instruments, medical and nursing equipment, uniforms, medals, documents and books. There was a forensic medicine section which included original material on Jack the Ripper, Dr Crippen and the Christie murders. There were also displays on Joseph Merrick (the 'Elephant Man') and former Hospital nurse Edith Cavell. There was the model of a church in the hospital that was built by Joseph Merrick who spent the last few years of his life at the hospital. The museum closed in 2020. The Royal London's archives contain a large number of documents dating back over 900 years.

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Historic collections The historic collections of the Royal London Hospital include a latge archive collection dating back to the founding of the hospital in 1740, as well as works of art, surgical instruments, medical and nursing equipment, uniforms, medals, documents and books. They include material relating to notable individuals such as [[Joseph Merrick]] (the 'Elephant Man') and former Hospital nurse [[Edith Cavell]], as well as the wider history of health and medicine in the [[East End of London|East End]]. These records and objects are amongst the collections held by Barts Health NHS Trust Archives [https://barts-health-archives], and cam be accessed at the archives. The catalogue can be searched online [http://www.calmhosting01.com/BartsHealth/CalmView/]. A small museum about the history of the hospital, formerly located in the crypt of the 19th-century hospital church, closed in 2020. All the collections formerly on display may be accessed through Barts Health NHS Trust Archives.

Ermerlindaj (talk) 01:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Reply 13-JUL-2023

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1. The requested text is virtually identical to text already in the article (including the date of the museum's closing). Additional text in the request contains external links guiding readers to the Trust's online catalog and archives. Unfortunately, per WP:ELPOINTS, external links are generally not allowed in the main body of articles. Those would be better placed in the External links section.
2. Taking a look at the External links section, it appears that there are some links already available which take readers to the Trust's archives. However, if these are not the same links requested, please advise here, so that your newer links can be added to the EL section.
3. One of those newer links provided in your request appears to be malformed (https://barts-health-archives). Please check this link and revise if possible, for inclusion in the EL section.
4. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{Edit COI}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=y to |ans=n. Thank you!
   

Regards,  Spintendo  11:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

• Museum and archives section:
• The section currently only signposts how the historic collections of the hospital used to be accessed, and not how they can be accessed now. There are also factual errors, auch as the statement that the Royal London's archives contain documents dating back over 900 years:
• <ref>bartshealth.nhs.uk/barts-health-archives<ref>:

Ermerlindaj (talk) 09:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

References

Hi - The wikipedia article says "The Royal London's archives contain a large number of documents dating back over 900 years". This is clearly sourced to a web page published by the Trust advising readers how to access the catalogue. So the wikipedia article does signpost readers to how they can access the collection now, and the Trust makes a similar claim about "nearly 900 years". Are you saying that the statement by the Trust that there are "documents dating back 900 years" is untrue? If so, please can you produce a reliable, published source demonstrating your position. Thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 11:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi - I have separated the former museum section from the archives section and removed the archives section altogether because, as has been pointed out by another editor, this article is about the Royal London Hospital not the Barts Trust. Dormskirk (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

The Barts Health NHS Trust Archives holds the collections which were formerly displayed in the museum. The Trust Archives collections include records and objects of around 40 current and former hospitals - the St Bartholomew's Hospital collection includes records going back to the 12th century (you can see covering dates for each collection in the list of archive collections in the section 'Searching the Archives' on the website at https://www.bartshealth.nhs.uk/barts-health-archives). Jarmsky (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)